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charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Sep 15, 2025 at 08:35:21PM +0200, Timo Rothenpieler via ffmpeg-deve= l wrote: > On 9/15/2025 8:26 PM, Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel wrote: [...] >=20 > >=20 > > >=20 > > > Plus the multi-account issue you mentioned. > >=20 > > redmine can accept OAuth2/OIDC logins via plugins IIUC > > would need to be tested in a test setup but there seems support for sha= red > > accounts in principle > I honestly don't understand the insistence on an external issue tracker. > That just makes things more complex for no real reason. It makes things more complex for the admin if there is an external tracker It makes things easier for the user if there is one tracker instead of 2 >=20 > And I also firmly disagree about the current setup being "a mess". > With no new tickets being allowed on trac, its quite the opposite of that. > If issues/tickets could be opened on both, then it'd be a mess. > This way it's just a migration. simple example. To show a few things that could happen A user found 2 bugs in the svq1 decoder, what does she do now ? Before she has to 1. search trac for bugs in the svq1 decoder, she finds the first bug there = with two proposed patches but no sample 2. she registers on trac 3. she uploads the sample and confirms that the first patch fixes it 4. she opens a new report for bug #2 But now after trac->forgejo she has to 1. search trac for bugs in the svq1 decoder, she finds the first bug there = with a proposed patch but no sample 2. she registers on trac 3. she uploads the sample and confirms that the patch fixes it 4. she tries to open a new ticket, but she is redirected to Forgejo 5. she registers on forgejo 6. she searches for the 2 bugs on forgejo, she finds a duplicate of #1 it links to a unrelated issue on trac or links to none and has been clos= ed and a patch which doesnt fix the issue was applied already. A mistake that happened = because the earlier patch in trac was missed 7. she uploads the sample to forgejo too 8. she reopens the duplicate issue and adds a link to trac explaining that the fix in trac was correct. People are confused and just ignore the tic= ket the wrong fix also isnt reverted as noone realized that a wrong fix was = applied already 9. she searches for the 2nd issue and also doesnt find it on forgejo 10.she opens a issue on forgejo for the 2nd issue 11. she is being asked to please check for duplicates on trac 12. she repeatedly searched trac for the issue and 13. she replies explaining she checked twice and thats a new issue Its a constructed example but its quite a bit of extra work for everyone and the outcome in the example is worse, as confusion and mistakes have lead to the application of a wrong patch >=20 > And the tickets on trac won't go away, so no history will be lost. > If you really want, I can import them all into Forgejo, but _that_ will be > horribly messy. It is largely just basic text with minimal formating, why does this become messy ? can we do something about the messyness and have this "not messy" ? thx [...] --=20 Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems is the day you have stopp= ed=20 leading them. They have either lost confidence that you can help or conclud= ed=20 you do not care. 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