On Mon, Sep 15, 2025 at 08:35:21PM +0200, Timo Rothenpieler via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> On 9/15/2025 8:26 PM, Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
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> > > 
> > > Plus the multi-account issue you mentioned.
> > 
> > redmine can accept OAuth2/OIDC logins via plugins IIUC
> > would need to be tested in a test setup but there seems support for shared
> > accounts in principle

> I honestly don't understand the insistence on an external issue tracker.
> That just makes things more complex for no real reason.

It makes things more complex for the admin if there is an external tracker
It makes things easier for the user if there is one tracker instead of 2


> 
> And I also firmly disagree about the current setup being "a mess".
> With no new tickets being allowed on trac, its quite the opposite of that.
> If issues/tickets could be opened on both, then it'd be a mess.
> This way it's just a migration.

simple example. To show a few things that could happen

A user found 2 bugs in the svq1 decoder, what does she do now ?

Before she has to
1. search trac for bugs in the svq1 decoder, she finds the first bug there with two
proposed patches but no sample
2. she registers on trac
3. she uploads the sample and confirms that the first patch fixes it
4. she opens a new report for bug #2

But now after trac->forgejo she has to
1. search trac for bugs in the svq1 decoder, she finds the first bug there with a
proposed patch but no sample
2. she registers on trac
3. she uploads the sample and confirms that the patch fixes it
4. she tries to open a new ticket, but she is redirected to Forgejo
5. she registers on forgejo
6. she searches for the 2 bugs on forgejo, she finds a duplicate of #1
   it links to a unrelated issue on trac or links to none and has been closed and a patch
   which doesnt fix the issue was applied already. A mistake that happened because
   the earlier patch in trac was missed
7. she uploads the sample to forgejo too
8. she reopens the duplicate issue and adds a link to trac explaining that
   the fix in trac was correct. People are confused and just ignore the ticket
   the wrong fix also isnt reverted as noone realized that a wrong fix was applied
   already
9. she searches for the 2nd issue and also doesnt find it on forgejo
10.she opens a issue on forgejo for the 2nd issue
11. she is being asked to please check for duplicates on trac
12. she repeatedly searched trac for the issue and
13. she replies explaining she checked twice and thats a new issue

Its a constructed example but its quite a bit of extra work for everyone
and the outcome in the example is worse, as confusion and mistakes
have lead to the application of a wrong patch


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> And the tickets on trac won't go away, so no history will be lost.


> If you really want, I can import them all into Forgejo, but _that_ will be
> horribly messy.

It is largely just basic text with minimal formating, why does this
become messy ?

can we do something about the messyness and have this "not messy" ?

thx

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