[FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2] web: Add funding.json

[FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2] web: Add funding.json

[Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel]

See: https://fundingjson.org/
See: https://floss.fund/

Based on: https://www.python.org/funding.json and the example from fundingjson.org

It is put in the web repository so its all on the plain ffmpeg.org domain otherwise extra files are needed
---
 htdocs/funding.json | 126 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 1 file changed, 126 insertions(+)
 create mode 100644 htdocs/funding.json

diff --git a/htdocs/funding.json b/htdocs/funding.json
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..42664c7
--- /dev/null
+++ b/htdocs/funding.json
@@ -0,0 +1,126 @@
+{
+    "version": "v1.0.0",
+
+    "entity": {
+        "type": "group",
+        "role": "owner",
+        "name": "FFmpeg",
+        "email": "ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org",
+        "description": "FFmpeg is the leading multimedia framework, able to decode, encode, transcode, mux, demux, stream, filter and play pretty much anything that humans and machines have created. It supports the most obscure ancient formats up to the cutting edge. No matter if they were designed by some standards committee, the community or a corporation. It is also highly portable: FFmpeg compiles, runs, and passes our testing infrastructure FATE across Linux, Mac OS X, Microsoft Windows, the BSDs, Solaris, etc. under a wide variety of build environments, machine architectures, and configurations.",
+        "webpageUrl": {
+            "url": "https://ffmpeg.org/"
+        }
+    },
+
+    "projects": [{
+        "guid": "ffmpeg",
+        "name": "FFmpeg",
+        "description": "FFmpeg is the leading multimedia framework, able to decode, encode, transcode, mux, demux, stream, filter and play pretty much anything that humans and machines have created. It supports the most obscure ancient formats up to the cutting edge. No matter if they were designed by some standards committee, the community or a corporation. It is also highly portable: FFmpeg compiles, runs, and passes our testing infrastructure FATE across Linux, Mac OS X, Microsoft Windows, the BSDs, Solaris, etc. under a wide variety of build environments, machine architectures, and configurations.",
+        "webpageUrl": {
+            "url": "https://ffmpeg.org/"
+        },
+        "repositoryUrl": {
+            "url": "https://ffmpeg.org/download"
+        },
+        "licenses": ["spdx:LGPL-2.1-or-later", "spdx:GPL-2.0-or-later"],
+        "tags": ["audio", "graphics"]
+    }],
+
+    "funding": {
+        "channels": [{
+            "guid": "ffmpeg-spi",
+            "type": "other",
+            "address": "https://ffmpeg.org/donations.html",
+            "description": "Paypal, CreditCard, Check, Money Order"
+        },{
+            "guid": "ffmpeg-spi-bank",
+            "type": "bank",
+            "address": "Please email us for payment details.",
+            "description": "Bank transfer"
+        }
+        ],
+
+        "plans": [{
+            "guid": "ffmpeg-individual",
+            "status": "active",
+            "name": "FFmpeg individual",
+            "description": "Pay as much or as little as you want",
+            "amount": 0,
+            "currency": "USD",
+            "frequency": "yearly",
+            "channels": ["ffmpeg-spi"]
+        },{
+            "guid": "visionary",
+            "status": "active",
+            "name": "Visionary Sponsor",
+            "amount": 155000,
+            "currency": "USD",
+            "frequency": "yearly",
+            "channels": ["ffmpeg-spi-bank"]
+        },{
+            "guid": "sustainability",
+            "status": "active",
+            "name": "Sustainability Sponsor",
+            "amount": 95000,
+            "currency": "USD",
+            "frequency": "yearly",
+            "channels": ["ffmpeg-spi-bank"]
+        },{
+            "guid": "maintaining",
+            "status": "active",
+            "name": "Maintaining Sponsor",
+            "amount": 63000,
+            "currency": "USD",
+            "frequency": "yearly",
+            "channels": ["ffmpeg-spi-bank"]
+        },{
+            "guid": "contributing",
+            "status": "active",
+            "name": "Contributing Sponsor",
+            "amount": 33000,
+            "currency": "USD",
+            "frequency": "yearly",
+            "channels": ["ffmpeg-spi-bank"]
+        },{
+            "guid": "supporting",
+            "status": "active",
+            "name": "Supporting Sponsor",
+            "amount": 16500,
+            "currency": "USD",
+            "frequency": "yearly",
+            "channels": ["ffmpeg-spi-bank"]
+        },{
+            "guid": "partner",
+            "status": "active",
+            "name": "Partner Sponsor",
+            "amount": 11000,
+            "currency": "USD",
+            "frequency": "yearly",
+            "channels": ["ffmpeg-spi-bank"]
+        },{
+            "guid": "participating",
+            "status": "active",
+            "name": "Participating Sponsor",
+            "amount": 4000,
+            "currency": "USD",
+            "frequency": "yearly",
+            "channels": ["ffmpeg-spi", "ffmpeg-spi-bank"]
+        },{
+            "guid": "associate",
+            "status": "active",
+            "name": "Associate Sponsor",
+            "amount": 1500,
+            "currency": "USD",
+            "frequency": "yearly",
+            "channels": ["ffmpeg-spi", "ffmpeg-spi-bank"]
+        },{
+            "guid": "ffmpeg-maintainer",
+            "status": "active",
+            "name": "Sponsor a full time maintainer and patch reviewer",
+            "amount": 100000,
+            "currency": "USD",
+            "frequency": "yearly",
+            "channels": ["ffmpeg-spi-bank"]
+        }]
+    }
+}
-- 
2.50.1

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[FFmpeg-devel] Re: [PATCH v2] web: Add funding.json

[Vittorio Giovara via ffmpeg-devel]

On Fri, Aug 29, 2025 at 5:23 PM Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel <
ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> wrote:

> See: https://fundingjson.org/
> See: https://floss.fund/
>
> Based on: https://www.python.org/funding.json and the example from
> fundingjson.org
>
> It is put in the web repository so its all on the plain ffmpeg.org domain
> otherwise extra files are needed
> ---
>  htdocs/funding.json | 126 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 126 insertions(+)
>  create mode 100644 htdocs/funding.json
>
> diff --git a/htdocs/funding.json b/htdocs/funding.json
> new file mode 100644
> index 0000000..42664c7
> --- /dev/null
> +++ b/htdocs/funding.json
> @@ -0,0 +1,126 @@
> +{
> +    "version": "v1.0.0",
> +
> +    "entity": {
> +        "type": "group",
> +        "role": "owner",
> +        "name": "FFmpeg",
> +        "email": "ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org",
> +        "description": "FFmpeg is the leading multimedia framework, able
> to decode, encode, transcode, mux, demux, stream, filter and play pretty
> much anything that humans and machines have created. It supports the most
> obscure ancient formats up to the cutting edge. No matter if they were
> designed by some standards committee, the community or a corporation. It is
> also highly portable: FFmpeg compiles, runs, and passes our testing
> infrastructure FATE across Linux, Mac OS X, Microsoft Windows, the BSDs,
> Solaris, etc. under a wide variety of build environments, machine
> architectures, and configurations.",
> +        "webpageUrl": {
> +            "url": "https://ffmpeg.org/"
> +        }
> +    },
> +
> +    "projects": [{
> +        "guid": "ffmpeg",
> +        "name": "FFmpeg",
> +        "description": "FFmpeg is the leading multimedia framework, able
> to decode, encode, transcode, mux, demux, stream, filter and play pretty
> much anything that humans and machines have created. It supports the most
> obscure ancient formats up to the cutting edge. No matter if they were
> designed by some standards committee, the community or a corporation. It is
> also highly portable: FFmpeg compiles, runs, and passes our testing
> infrastructure FATE across Linux, Mac OS X, Microsoft Windows, the BSDs,
> Solaris, etc. under a wide variety of build environments, machine
> architectures, and configurations.",
> +        "webpageUrl": {
> +            "url": "https://ffmpeg.org/"
> +        },
> +        "repositoryUrl": {
> +            "url": "https://ffmpeg.org/download"
> +        },
> +        "licenses": ["spdx:LGPL-2.1-or-later", "spdx:GPL-2.0-or-later"],
> +        "tags": ["audio", "graphics"]
> +    }],
> +
> +    "funding": {
> +        "channels": [{
> +            "guid": "ffmpeg-spi",
> +            "type": "other",
> +            "address": "https://ffmpeg.org/donations.html",
> +            "description": "Paypal, CreditCard, Check, Money Order"
> +        },{
> +            "guid": "ffmpeg-spi-bank",
> +            "type": "bank",
> +            "address": "Please email us for payment details.",
> +            "description": "Bank transfer"
> +        }
> +        ],
> +
> +        "plans": [{
> +            "guid": "ffmpeg-individual",
> +            "status": "active",
> +            "name": "FFmpeg individual",
> +            "description": "Pay as much or as little as you want",
> +            "amount": 0,
> +            "currency": "USD",
> +            "frequency": "yearly",
> +            "channels": ["ffmpeg-spi"]
> +        },{
> +            "guid": "visionary",
> +            "status": "active",
> +            "name": "Visionary Sponsor",
> +            "amount": 155000,
> +            "currency": "USD",
> +            "frequency": "yearly",
> +            "channels": ["ffmpeg-spi-bank"]
> +        },{
> +            "guid": "sustainability",
> +            "status": "active",
> +            "name": "Sustainability Sponsor",
> +            "amount": 95000,
> +            "currency": "USD",
> +            "frequency": "yearly",
> +            "channels": ["ffmpeg-spi-bank"]
> +        },{
> +            "guid": "maintaining",
> +            "status": "active",
> +            "name": "Maintaining Sponsor",
> +            "amount": 63000,
> +            "currency": "USD",
> +            "frequency": "yearly",
> +            "channels": ["ffmpeg-spi-bank"]
> +        },{
> +            "guid": "contributing",
> +            "status": "active",
> +            "name": "Contributing Sponsor",
> +            "amount": 33000,
> +            "currency": "USD",
> +            "frequency": "yearly",
> +            "channels": ["ffmpeg-spi-bank"]
> +        },{
> +            "guid": "supporting",
> +            "status": "active",
> +            "name": "Supporting Sponsor",
> +            "amount": 16500,
> +            "currency": "USD",
> +            "frequency": "yearly",
> +            "channels": ["ffmpeg-spi-bank"]
> +        },{
> +            "guid": "partner",
> +            "status": "active",
> +            "name": "Partner Sponsor",
> +            "amount": 11000,
> +            "currency": "USD",
> +            "frequency": "yearly",
> +            "channels": ["ffmpeg-spi-bank"]
> +        },{
> +            "guid": "participating",
> +            "status": "active",
> +            "name": "Participating Sponsor",
> +            "amount": 4000,
> +            "currency": "USD",
> +            "frequency": "yearly",
> +            "channels": ["ffmpeg-spi", "ffmpeg-spi-bank"]
> +        },{
> +            "guid": "associate",
> +            "status": "active",
> +            "name": "Associate Sponsor",
> +            "amount": 1500,
> +            "currency": "USD",
> +            "frequency": "yearly",
> +            "channels": ["ffmpeg-spi", "ffmpeg-spi-bank"]
> +        },{
> +            "guid": "ffmpeg-maintainer",
> +            "status": "active",
> +            "name": "Sponsor a full time maintainer and patch reviewer",
> +            "amount": 100000,
> +            "currency": "USD",
> +            "frequency": "yearly",
> +            "channels": ["ffmpeg-spi-bank"]
> +        }]
> +    }
> +}
> --


For as long as this project actively pursues hostile takeovers that violate
the spirit of open source contributions and apply a revisionist take to any
negative history, I don't think any funding scheme should be authorized.
The existing FUNDING.json should be deleted since it was pushed without
formal approval.
-- 
Vittorio
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[FFmpeg-devel] Re: [PATCH v2] web: Add funding.json

[Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel]

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On Fri, Aug 29, 2025 at 05:21:00PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> See: https://fundingjson.org/
> See: https://floss.fund/
> 
> Based on: https://www.python.org/funding.json and the example from fundingjson.org
> 
> It is put in the web repository so its all on the plain ffmpeg.org domain otherwise extra files are needed
> ---
>  htdocs/funding.json | 126 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 126 insertions(+)
>  create mode 100644 htdocs/funding.json

Applied after discussion in the General Assembly.
There where no objections.

thx

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[FFmpeg-devel] Re: [PATCH v2] web: Add funding.json

[Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel]

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Hi everyone

On Fri, Aug 29, 2025 at 05:21:00PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> See: https://fundingjson.org/
> See: https://floss.fund/
> 
> Based on: https://www.python.org/funding.json and the example from fundingjson.org
> 
> It is put in the web repository so its all on the plain ffmpeg.org domain otherwise extra files are needed
> ---
>  htdocs/funding.json | 126 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 126 insertions(+)
>  create mode 100644 htdocs/funding.json

Submitted to: https://dir.floss.fund/

"The manifest has been submitted."
"Submitting a funding manifest here makes it publicly discoverable on the directory. It also creates an application for a FLOSS/Fund grant. See FAQs."

https://dir.floss.fund/view/@ffmpeg.org


If you want something changed, just send a patch to change funding.json

thx

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[FFmpeg-devel] Re: [PATCH v2] web: Add funding.json

[Derek Buitenhuis via ffmpeg-devel]

On 9/3/2025 2:06 PM, Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> Applied after discussion in the General Assembly.
> There where no objections.

There were multiple objections on this list.

Moving it to a private list because it better suits your goal is, to use
a word you like to use: unacceptable.

(I know I said I'd unsubscribe, but I tried and mailman is broken.
It says my email doesn't exist as a subscriber, so I can't. It continues
to spam me against my will. I told Timo, too. Should I send a GDPR notice?)

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[FFmpeg-devel] Re: [PATCH v2] web: Add funding.json

[Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel]

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Hi Derek

On Wed, Sep 03, 2025 at 02:19:28PM +0100, Derek Buitenhuis via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> On 9/3/2025 2:06 PM, Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> > Applied after discussion in the General Assembly.
> > There where no objections.
> 
> There were multiple objections on this list.

There was one objection against the support for crypto donations by you.
And the option for crypto donations was removed in v2 of this patch.

Against v2 of this patch there was one objection by your manager (or co worker)
Vittorio. There where not multiple objections.

https://lists.ffmpeg.org/archives/list/ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org/message/DYTV6QXM2KUW7QHTPLMGDQF6WXLR2YJV/

Vittorio wants FFmpeg to not seek any Sponsors and describes FFmpeg as hostile.

How would you describe your and Vittorios behavior towards FFmpeg ?

Towards, Thilo, towards me, in the past towards Carl, Paul and others ?

And where do you think FFmpeg will be in 10 years if the suggestions from
you and Vittorio are implemented
(that is not seeking sponsors, not integrating improvments from forks) ?

thx

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[FFmpeg-devel] Re: [PATCH v2] web: Add funding.json

[Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel]

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Hi Derek

On Wed, Sep 03, 2025 at 02:19:28PM +0100, Derek Buitenhuis via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> On 9/3/2025 2:06 PM, Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> > Applied after discussion in the General Assembly.
> > There where no objections.
[...]
> Moving it to a private list because it better suits your goal is, to use
> a word you like to use: unacceptable.

The General Assembly is the group that can override an objection or decide
in case of a dispute that doesnt fall under the TC. funding is not a techincal
matter so its not for the TC.

A formal vote was not opened because not a single member asked for one or
supported the objection from vittorio.

But i encourage you and vittorio to publically discuss your objections:
"I don't think any funding scheme should be authorized."
from here:
https://lists.ffmpeg.org/archives/list/ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org/message/DYTV6QXM2KUW7QHTPLMGDQF6WXLR2YJV/

I belive close to 100% of FFmpeg supporters, support some funding scheme
for FFmpeg.

thx

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[FFmpeg-devel] Re: [PATCH v2] web: Add funding.json

[Derek Buitenhuis via ffmpeg-devel]

On 9/3/2025 3:29 PM, Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> Hi Derek
> 
> On Wed, Sep 03, 2025 at 02:19:28PM +0100, Derek Buitenhuis via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
>> On 9/3/2025 2:06 PM, Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
>>> Applied after discussion in the General Assembly.
>>> There where no objections.
>>
>> There were multiple objections on this list.
> 
> There was one objection against the support for crypto donations by you.
> And the option for crypto donations was removed in v2 of this patch.

You'd have to be willingly ignorant to not carry them over.

> Against v2 of this patch there was one objection by your manager (or co worker)
> Vittorio. There where not multiple objections.

Corporate conspiracy theories are not welcome here. CC is cced.

Implying my employment affects my conduct here has crossed a line,
and really just demonstrates the kind of paranoia I alluded to before.

> 
> https://lists.ffmpeg.org/archives/list/ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org/message/DYTV6QXM2KUW7QHTPLMGDQF6WXLR2YJV/
> 
> Vittorio wants FFmpeg to not seek any Sponsors and describes FFmpeg as hostile.
> 
> How would you describe your and Vittorios behavior towards FFmpeg ?

Better than yours.

> Towards, Thilo, towards me, in the past towards Carl, Paul and others ?
> 
> And where do you think FFmpeg will be in 10 years if the suggestions from
> you and Vittorio are implemented
> (that is not seeking sponsors, not integrating improvments from forks) ?

If you stay here? Dead.

I would like to unsubscribe from Insanity Daily. Too bad the list won't let me.

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[FFmpeg-devel] Re: [PATCH v2] web: Add funding.json

[Derek Buitenhuis via ffmpeg-devel]

On 9/3/2025 3:47 PM, Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> Hi Derek
> 
> On Wed, Sep 03, 2025 at 02:19:28PM +0100, Derek Buitenhuis via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
>> On 9/3/2025 2:06 PM, Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
>>> Applied after discussion in the General Assembly.
>>> There where no objections.
> [...]
>> Moving it to a private list because it better suits your goal is, to use
>> a word you like to use: unacceptable.
> 
> The General Assembly is the group that can override an objection or decide
> in case of a dispute that doesnt fall under the TC. funding is not a techincal
> matter so its not for the TC.

With a vote.

> 
> A formal vote was not opened because not a single member asked for one or
> supported the objection from vittorio.

That's just not how a GA works anywhere, ever.

> 
> But i encourage you and vittorio to publically discuss your objections:



> "I don't think any funding scheme should be authorized."
> from here:
> https://lists.ffmpeg.org/archives/list/ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org/message/DYTV6QXM2KUW7QHTPLMGDQF6WXLR2YJV/
> 
> I belive close to 100% of FFmpeg supporters, support some funding scheme
> for FFmpeg.

Citation needed.


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[FFmpeg-devel] Re: [PATCH v2] web: Add funding.json

[Derek Buitenhuis via ffmpeg-devel]

On 9/3/2025 4:19 PM, Derek Buitenhuis wrote:
> I would like to unsubscribe from Insanity Daily. Too bad the list won't let me.

Looks like if I sign up for a new account, I can unsubscribe from my old (non-account)'s emails. So, bye.

(Pretty sure this is not GDPR compliant BTW.)

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