[FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] web: Add funding.json

[FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] web: Add funding.json

[Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel]

See: https://fundingjson.org/
See: https://floss.fund/

Based on: https://www.python.org/funding.json and the example from fundingjson.org

It is put in the web repository so its all on the plain ffmpeg.org domain otherwise extra files are needed
---
 htdocs/funding.json | 131 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 1 file changed, 131 insertions(+)
 create mode 100644 htdocs/funding.json

diff --git a/htdocs/funding.json b/htdocs/funding.json
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..d0b6ee8
--- /dev/null
+++ b/htdocs/funding.json
@@ -0,0 +1,131 @@
+{
+    "version": "v1.0.0",
+
+    "entity": {
+        "type": "group",
+        "role": "owner",
+        "name": "FFmpeg",
+        "email": "ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org",
+        "description": "FFmpeg is the leading multimedia framework, able to decode, encode, transcode, mux, demux, stream, filter and play pretty much anything that humans and machines have created. It supports the most obscure ancient formats up to the cutting edge. No matter if they were designed by some standards committee, the community or a corporation. It is also highly portable: FFmpeg compiles, runs, and passes our testing infrastructure FATE across Linux, Mac OS X, Microsoft Windows, the BSDs, Solaris, etc. under a wide variety of build environments, machine architectures, and configurations.",
+        "webpageUrl": {
+            "url": "https://ffmpeg.org/"
+        }
+    },
+
+    "projects": [{
+        "guid": "ffmpeg",
+        "name": "FFmpeg",
+        "description": "FFmpeg is the leading multimedia framework, able to decode, encode, transcode, mux, demux, stream, filter and play pretty much anything that humans and machines have created. It supports the most obscure ancient formats up to the cutting edge. No matter if they were designed by some standards committee, the community or a corporation. It is also highly portable: FFmpeg compiles, runs, and passes our testing infrastructure FATE across Linux, Mac OS X, Microsoft Windows, the BSDs, Solaris, etc. under a wide variety of build environments, machine architectures, and configurations.",
+        "webpageUrl": {
+            "url": "https://ffmpeg.org/"
+        },
+        "repositoryUrl": {
+            "url": "https://ffmpeg.org/download"
+        },
+        "licenses": ["spdx:LGPL-2.1-or-later", "spdx:GPL-2.0-or-later"],
+        "tags": ["audio", "graphics"]
+    }],
+
+    "funding": {
+        "channels": [{
+            "guid": "ffmpeg-spi",
+            "type": "other",
+            "address": "https://ffmpeg.org/donations.html",
+            "description": "Paypal, CreditCard, Check, Money Order"
+        },{
+            "guid": "ffmpeg-spi-bank",
+            "type": "bank",
+            "address": "Please email us for payment details.",
+            "description": "Bank transfer"
+        },{
+            "guid": "ffmpeg-crypto",
+            "type": "other",
+            "address": "0x2f3900e7064eE63D30d749971265858612AA7139",
+            "description": "USDC on etherium/arbitrum/base/optimism/polygon, small amounts only, until we fully understand tax and accounting of this"
+        }
+        ],
+
+        "plans": [{
+            "guid": "ffmpeg-individual",
+            "status": "active",
+            "name": "FFmpeg individual",
+            "description": "Pay as much or as little as you want",
+            "amount": 0,
+            "currency": "USD",
+            "frequency": "yearly",
+            "channels": ["ffmpeg-spi", "ffmpeg-crypto"]
+        },{
+            "guid": "visionary",
+            "status": "active",
+            "name": "Visionary Sponsor",
+            "amount": 155000,
+            "currency": "USD",
+            "frequency": "yearly",
+            "channels": ["ffmpeg-spi-bank"]
+        },{
+            "guid": "sustainability",
+            "status": "active",
+            "name": "Sustainability Sponsor",
+            "amount": 95000,
+            "currency": "USD",
+            "frequency": "yearly",
+            "channels": ["ffmpeg-spi-bank"]
+        },{
+            "guid": "maintaining",
+            "status": "active",
+            "name": "Maintaining Sponsor",
+            "amount": 63000,
+            "currency": "USD",
+            "frequency": "yearly",
+            "channels": ["ffmpeg-spi-bank"]
+        },{
+            "guid": "contributing",
+            "status": "active",
+            "name": "Contributing Sponsor",
+            "amount": 33000,
+            "currency": "USD",
+            "frequency": "yearly",
+            "channels": ["ffmpeg-spi-bank"]
+        },{
+            "guid": "supporting",
+            "status": "active",
+            "name": "Supporting Sponsor",
+            "amount": 16500,
+            "currency": "USD",
+            "frequency": "yearly",
+            "channels": ["ffmpeg-spi-bank"]
+        },{
+            "guid": "partner",
+            "status": "active",
+            "name": "Partner Sponsor",
+            "amount": 11000,
+            "currency": "USD",
+            "frequency": "yearly",
+            "channels": ["ffmpeg-spi-bank"]
+        },{
+            "guid": "participating",
+            "status": "active",
+            "name": "Participating Sponsor",
+            "amount": 4000,
+            "currency": "USD",
+            "frequency": "yearly",
+            "channels": ["ffmpeg-spi", "ffmpeg-spi-bank"]
+        },{
+            "guid": "associate",
+            "status": "active",
+            "name": "Associate Sponsor",
+            "amount": 1500,
+            "currency": "USD",
+            "frequency": "yearly",
+            "channels": ["ffmpeg-spi", "ffmpeg-spi-bank"]
+        },{
+            "guid": "ffmpeg-reviewer",
+            "status": "active",
+            "name": "Sponsor a full time patch reviewer",
+            "amount": 100000,
+            "currency": "USD",
+            "frequency": "yearly",
+            "channels": ["ffmpeg-spi-bank"]
+        }]
+    }
+}
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[FFmpeg-devel] Re: [PATCH] web: Add funding.json

[Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel]

On Thu, Aug 28, 2025 at 10:11 PM Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel
<ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> wrote:
> +
> +    "funding": {
> +        "channels": [{
> +            "guid": "ffmpeg-spi",
> +            "type": "other",
> +            "address": "https://ffmpeg.org/donations.html",
> +            "description": "Paypal, CreditCard, Check, Money Order"
> +        },{
> +            "guid": "ffmpeg-spi-bank",
> +            "type": "bank",
> +            "address": "Please email us for payment details.",
> +            "description": "Bank transfer"
> +        },{
> +            "guid": "ffmpeg-crypto",
> +            "type": "other",
> +            "address": "0x2f3900e7064eE63D30d749971265858612AA7139",
> +            "description": "USDC on etherium/arbitrum/base/optimism/polygon, small amounts only, until we fully understand tax and accounting of this"
> +        }

Seriously?
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[FFmpeg-devel] Re: [PATCH] web: Add funding.json

[Derek Buitenhuis via ffmpeg-devel]

On 8/29/2025 2:08 AM, Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel wrote:

>> +            "guid": "ffmpeg-crypto",
>> +            "type": "other",
>> +            "address": "0x2f3900e7064eE63D30d749971265858612AA7139",
>> +            "description": "USDC on etherium/arbitrum/base/optimism/polygon, small amounts only, until we fully understand tax and accounting of this"
>> +        }
> 
> Seriously?

I also object. We'll see if this is pushed without consent like funding.json
was to the main git repo, which has yet to be removed.

- Derek
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[FFmpeg-devel] Re: [PATCH] web: Add funding.json

[Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel]

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Hi Derek

On Fri, Aug 29, 2025 at 01:48:07PM +0100, Derek Buitenhuis via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> On 8/29/2025 2:08 AM, Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel wrote:

> We'll see if this is pushed without consent like funding.json
> was to the main git repo, which has yet to be removed.

Implying that a funding.json was pushed without consent is unacceptable

The patch was on the mailing list,
Do 19 Jun 2025 21:12:23 CEST Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc> [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Add FUNDING.json

The General Assembly was informed about the potential donation from
the etherum foundation, that needed this FUNDING.json file
Mo 09 Jun 2025 21:30:27 CEST Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc> Donation from the etherium foundation
Mi 18 Jun 2025 23:23:31 CEST Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc> Re: Donation from the etherium foundation

Normally this would call for a private one on one discussion but as you
make these statments in public, it requires a public response.

What you do here is damaging to the FFmpeg project. Including a potential
loss of sponsors. And also very damaging to the Team.

This comes after, you yourself already stated that you would limit yourself
to code and reviews: https://lists.ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2024-November/336263.html
"The only mails you'll see from me in the future are code or reviews. I
 am sure certain community members will appreciate that."

And id like to emphasize, even IF something wrong happened with funding.json
thats a matter to be discussed and resolved privatly.
First with the involved parties, and if that fails with the GA.
None of that happened

Posting such claims in public is damaging to the project and team.
And is completely unacceptable

thx

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[FFmpeg-devel] Re: [PATCH] web: Add funding.json

[Derek Buitenhuis via ffmpeg-devel]

On 8/29/2025 4:15 PM, Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> Implying that a funding.json was pushed without consent is unacceptable

It was and I said so at the time. Nobody approved it. Please forward to the
CC if you think it is unacceptable. Their silence is typical.

I'll CC them for you, actually.

Multiple people on the GA have said they misunderstood or were mislead.

> Normally this would call for a private one on one discussion but as you
> make these statments in public, it requires a public response.

Disagree.

> 
> What you do here is damaging to the FFmpeg project. Including a potential
> loss of sponsors. And also very damaging to the Team.

You are so unable to self-reflect, I think you should, seriously, I am not
joking or being an ass, seek professional mental help.

YOU are the biggest issue with FFmpeg and the communtiy. YOU are toxic.
FFmpeg is doomed unless you either leave or seek treatment.

> This comes after, you yourself already stated that you would limit yourself
> to code and reviews: https://lists.ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2024-November/336263.html
> "The only mails you'll see from me in the future are code or reviews. I
>  am sure certain community members will appreciate that."

Yeah I keep pulling myself back in, it's a bad personality trait.

You do like to keep bringing it up though, as it is bothersome to you.

> And id like to emphasize, even IF something wrong happened with funding.json
> thats a matter to be discussed and resolved privatly.
> First with the involved parties, and if that fails with the GA.
> None of that happened

It's an open source project and the file and funding is public, and
people who donate should know.

You would like it private because it makes you look bad.

> Posting such claims in public is damaging to the project and team.
> And is completely unacceptable

Please try and self-reflect.

Obviously I am no saint, but holy dear god, do you have no ability
whatsoever to see your own affect, and the effects of your own actions?
Are you completely and totally delusional?

Unsubscribed.

- Derek
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[FFmpeg-devel] Re: [PATCH] web: Add funding.json

[Rémi Denis-Courmont via ffmpeg-devel]

Le 29 août 2025 00:10:26 GMT+03:00, Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> a écrit :
>See: https://fundingjson.org/
>See: https://floss.fund/
>
>Based on: https://www.python.org/funding.json and the example from fundingjson.org
>
>It is put in the web repository so its all on the plain ffmpeg.org domain otherwise extra files are needed
>---
> htdocs/funding.json | 131 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> 1 file changed, 131 insertions(+)
> create mode 100644 htdocs/funding.json
>
>diff --git a/htdocs/funding.json b/htdocs/funding.json
>new file mode 100644
>index 0000000..d0b6ee8
>--- /dev/null
>+++ b/htdocs/funding.json
>@@ -0,0 +1,131 @@
>+{
>+    "version": "v1.0.0",
>+
>+    "entity": {
>+        "type": "group",
>+        "role": "owner",
>+        "name": "FFmpeg",
>+        "email": "ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org",
>+        "description": "FFmpeg is the leading multimedia framework, able to decode, encode, transcode, mux, demux, stream, filter and play pretty much anything that humans and machines have created. It supports the most obscure ancient formats up to the cutting edge. No matter if they were designed by some standards committee, the community or a corporation. It is also highly portable: FFmpeg compiles, runs, and passes our testing infrastructure FATE across Linux, Mac OS X, Microsoft Windows, the BSDs, Solaris, etc. under a wide variety of build environments, machine architectures, and configurations.",
>+        "webpageUrl": {
>+            "url": "https://ffmpeg.org/"
>+        }
>+    },
>+
>+    "projects": [{
>+        "guid": "ffmpeg",
>+        "name": "FFmpeg",
>+        "description": "FFmpeg is the leading multimedia framework, able to decode, encode, transcode, mux, demux, stream, filter and play pretty much anything that humans and machines have created. It supports the most obscure ancient formats up to the cutting edge. No matter if they were designed by some standards committee, the community or a corporation. It is also highly portable: FFmpeg compiles, runs, and passes our testing infrastructure FATE across Linux, Mac OS X, Microsoft Windows, the BSDs, Solaris, etc. under a wide variety of build environments, machine architectures, and configurations.",
>+        "webpageUrl": {
>+            "url": "https://ffmpeg.org/"
>+        },
>+        "repositoryUrl": {
>+            "url": "https://ffmpeg.org/download"
>+        },
>+        "licenses": ["spdx:LGPL-2.1-or-later", "spdx:GPL-2.0-or-later"],
>+        "tags": ["audio", "graphics"]
>+    }],
>+
>+    "funding": {
>+        "channels": [{
>+            "guid": "ffmpeg-spi",
>+            "type": "other",
>+            "address": "https://ffmpeg.org/donations.html",
>+            "description": "Paypal, CreditCard, Check, Money Order"
>+        },{
>+            "guid": "ffmpeg-spi-bank",
>+            "type": "bank",
>+            "address": "Please email us for payment details.",
>+            "description": "Bank transfer"
>+        },{
>+            "guid": "ffmpeg-crypto",
>+            "type": "other",
>+            "address": "0x2f3900e7064eE63D30d749971265858612AA7139",
>+            "description": "USDC on etherium/arbitrum/base/optimism/polygon, small amounts only, until we fully understand tax and accounting of this"
>+        }

Does SPI controls this crypto-wallet? If not, then either:
- the entity controlling the wallet is somehow not taxable and is appropriating community funding,
- the entity controlling the wallet is taxable and, on top of the above, it is legally questionable, no matter how small the amount(s).

In other words, unless the answer is "yes", the only possible response is "hard nack".


>+        ],
>+
>+        "plans": [{
>+            "guid": "ffmpeg-individual",
>+            "status": "active",
>+            "name": "FFmpeg individual",
>+            "description": "Pay as much or as little as you want",
>+            "amount": 0,
>+            "currency": "USD",
>+            "frequency": "yearly",
>+            "channels": ["ffmpeg-spi", "ffmpeg-crypto"]
>+        },{
>+            "guid": "visionary",
>+            "status": "active",
>+            "name": "Visionary Sponsor",
>+            "amount": 155000,
>+            "currency": "USD",
>+            "frequency": "yearly",
>+            "channels": ["ffmpeg-spi-bank"]
>+        },{
>+            "guid": "sustainability",
>+            "status": "active",
>+            "name": "Sustainability Sponsor",
>+            "amount": 95000,
>+            "currency": "USD",
>+            "frequency": "yearly",
>+            "channels": ["ffmpeg-spi-bank"]
>+        },{
>+            "guid": "maintaining",
>+            "status": "active",
>+            "name": "Maintaining Sponsor",
>+            "amount": 63000,
>+            "currency": "USD",
>+            "frequency": "yearly",
>+            "channels": ["ffmpeg-spi-bank"]
>+        },{
>+            "guid": "contributing",
>+            "status": "active",
>+            "name": "Contributing Sponsor",
>+            "amount": 33000,
>+            "currency": "USD",
>+            "frequency": "yearly",
>+            "channels": ["ffmpeg-spi-bank"]
>+        },{
>+            "guid": "supporting",
>+            "status": "active",
>+            "name": "Supporting Sponsor",
>+            "amount": 16500,
>+            "currency": "USD",
>+            "frequency": "yearly",
>+            "channels": ["ffmpeg-spi-bank"]
>+        },{
>+            "guid": "partner",
>+            "status": "active",
>+            "name": "Partner Sponsor",
>+            "amount": 11000,
>+            "currency": "USD",
>+            "frequency": "yearly",
>+            "channels": ["ffmpeg-spi-bank"]
>+        },{
>+            "guid": "participating",
>+            "status": "active",
>+            "name": "Participating Sponsor",
>+            "amount": 4000,
>+            "currency": "USD",
>+            "frequency": "yearly",
>+            "channels": ["ffmpeg-spi", "ffmpeg-spi-bank"]
>+        },{
>+            "guid": "associate",
>+            "status": "active",
>+            "name": "Associate Sponsor",
>+            "amount": 1500,
>+            "currency": "USD",
>+            "frequency": "yearly",
>+            "channels": ["ffmpeg-spi", "ffmpeg-spi-bank"]
>+        },{
>+            "guid": "ffmpeg-reviewer",
>+            "status": "active",
>+            "name": "Sponsor a full time patch reviewer",
>+            "amount": 100000,
>+            "currency": "USD",
>+            "frequency": "yearly",
>+            "channels": ["ffmpeg-spi-bank"]
>+        }]
>+    }
>+}
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[FFmpeg-devel] Re: [PATCH] web: Add funding.json

[Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel]

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Hi Remi

On Fri, Aug 29, 2025 at 08:35:54PM +0300, Rémi Denis-Courmont via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
[...]
> >+        },{
> >+            "guid": "ffmpeg-crypto",
> >+            "type": "other",
> >+            "address": "0x2f3900e7064eE63D30d749971265858612AA7139",
> >+            "description": "USDC on etherium/arbitrum/base/optimism/polygon, small amounts only, until we fully understand tax and accounting of this"
> >+        }
> 
> Does SPI controls this crypto-wallet? If not, then either:
> - the entity controlling the wallet is somehow not taxable and is appropriating community funding,
> - the entity controlling the wallet is taxable and, on top of the above, it is legally questionable, no matter how small the amount(s).
> 
> In other words, unless the answer is "yes", the only possible response is "hard nack".

Ive sent a V2 of this patch without this wallet, but to awnser your questions

This is FFmpegs gnosis safe wallet, i have originally set it up
The wallet is controlled by the General Assembly of FFmpeg and SPI

And the General Assembly can change the person(s) who control the wallet
For example the GA could simply choose any people it wants
these people then could make a transaction. for example it could be setup as a 2 of 3
multisig, so that 2 of 3 people have to agree on a transaction.

(of course once the GA does that, only these people can make future changes)

Currently the wallet is intended to only serve as a intermediate to move money
from crypto USDC to USD on SPIs/FFmpeg. This is not a taxable operation here
according to the tax adviser i have asked. But i still would like to limit
the use of this wallet until we are sure everything works in practice.

thx

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