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From: Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Plugins architecture
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2025 13:59:30 +0200
Message-ID: <20250812115930.GI29660@pb2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <00ad392c-084e-4ab9-a314-48412d56c348@lynne.ee>


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Hi Lynne

On Tue, Aug 12, 2025 at 03:38:31PM +0900, Lynne wrote:
> On 11/08/2025 22:10, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > Hi Lynne
> > 
> > On Mon, Aug 11, 2025 at 09:22:26PM +0900, Lynne wrote:
> > [...]
> > > To me, at least, I can imagine five options:
> > > 
> > > Option 1 - we have an official binary plugin interface, free for
> > >             everyone to use with no limitation.
> > 
> > That requires someone to create that "binary plugin interface",
> > that person seems not existing, so i dont think its an "option"
> 
> Its a better option in that its a one-time affair, and also there's no
> endorsement of such plugins by us.

noone has endorsed anything

and supporting binary plugins is not a "one time affair" its the very
opposit, its ongoing continous work to maintain a compatible and working
API and ABI


> Also, we had such an infrastructure in the past with users being able to
> give their own AVCodec structures to lavc, without us having guarantees that
> we wouldn't break this.
> It wouldn't take much to revert that and implement support for this, along
> with freezing AVCodec longer-term than major bumps.

thats just talk, you wont maintain any of this.

and i doubt the community will freeze the whole API and ABI for it nor
should we.
And if its not frozen then a API needs to be designed for these binary plugins

But you are welcome to create a functioing API for binary plugins and
maintain it long term.
Iam certainly not going to stop you. This of course has nothing to do with
source pligins. They are entirely separate things.

thx

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-12 11:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-11 12:22 Lynne
2025-08-11 12:43 ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-08-12  6:25   ` Lynne
2025-08-12 11:35     ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-08-11 13:10 ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-08-11 17:48   ` Jacob Lifshay
2025-08-12  6:38   ` Lynne
2025-08-12 11:59     ` Michael Niedermayer [this message]
2025-08-12 14:13     ` [FFmpeg-devel] Global state and mutable component lists (was: Plugins architecture) Nicolas George
2025-08-11 17:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] Plugins architecture Jacob Lifshay
2025-08-12 12:34 ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-08-12 13:44 ` Nicolas George
2025-08-12 14:10 ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-08-12 23:08   ` Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel

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