From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6FBCE48307 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2025 20:48:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCD4A68CC0F; Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:47:55 +0300 (EEST) Received: from relay7-d.mail.gandi.net (relay7-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.200]) by ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 57CC668C037 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:47:49 +0300 (EEST) Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9CD8D4434D for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2025 20:47:48 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=niedermayer.cc; s=gm1; t=1753649268; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=EE7pnMfnjroUXMtiUvVAtVmDLs/Y9/UwChs5X0rV6DY=; b=kc0IEJAtxKzlweJs/5ubg5aWaZB1w5OhBBdzxjbNt4MsxuouOL/L6oXlC9tF5g378B8GK5 3SbI/zDIomoS2kmVUpSgn46aergO69vM/A3JwrnA5xq8+JAn3hc8OLvpMjBvBSMLPmUmq1 hNxdskv6pYJV6rUSutGEpRQhVL1D9PimmDibT5UT24ZH7oMbieCfkdaB4/H9tgFEgiJd9/ wmhPu2f7i7P1TsOG9BlaumZr04htFv2dIa84jMcguCP7VGkRssvD1sY4IZE59//xQv+uOP coIn6Pv40y92flnvTnPJqhwJrrfknKfDrBulO8TXpYn8SoChagrRmRwC9JlZDg== Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2025 22:47:47 +0200 From: Michael Niedermayer To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Message-ID: <20250727204747.GU29660@pb2> References: <20250722035337.2216565-1-dev@lynne.ee> <20250722230434.GG29660@pb2> <20250727140722.GB7604@haasn.xyz> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20250727140722.GB7604@haasn.xyz> X-GND-State: clean X-GND-Score: -85 X-GND-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeeffedrtdefgdeltddvlecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfitefpfffkpdcuggftfghnshhusghstghrihgsvgenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedtudenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmnegfrhhlucfvnfffucdludehmdenucfjughrpeffhffvuffkfhggtggujgesghdtreertddtvdenucfhrhhomhepofhitghhrggvlhcupfhivgguvghrmhgrhigvrhcuoehmihgthhgrvghlsehnihgvuggvrhhmrgihvghrrdgttgeqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepudduhfeihfevgeetvdffhefhteehhedtfeelvdekheelieegueeuveektefftdfhnecuffhomhgrihhnpeifihhkihhpvgguihgrrdhorhhgpdhffhhmphgvghdrohhrghenucfkphepgedurdeiiedrieehrddujeeinecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehinhgvthepgedurdeiiedrieehrddujeeipdhhvghloheplhhotggrlhhhohhsthdpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehmihgthhgrvghlsehnihgvuggvrhhmrgihvghrrdgttgdpnhgspghrtghpthhtohepuddprhgtphhtthhopehffhhmphgvghdquggvvhgvlhesfhhfmhhpvghgrdhorhhg X-GND-Sasl: michael@niedermayer.cc Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] web: announce code.ffmpeg.org X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7011090305013756739==" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --===============7011090305013756739== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3E/CmISRl7iMRv4/" Content-Disposition: inline --3E/CmISRl7iMRv4/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Niklas On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 02:07:22PM +0200, Niklas Haas wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 01:04:34 +0200 Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > The announcment should probably mention that performance, as in number = of > > submissions / percentage of applied / not reviewed patches will be > > monitored compared to the mailing list. >=20 > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodhart%27s_law I dont think the conditions of this are fullfilled [...] > Besides, > performance metrics can be gamed. Yes, if you know them AND you have an incentive to do so. Do you know them ? Do you (or anyone else here) have an incentive to game them ? I do think we all just want to make the right decission But theres a 3rd point, lets assume the metric is more contributions and more reviewed, fewer unreviewed patches. Imagine people try to game this and we thus have more contributions and more reviewed, fewer unreviewed patches. That sounds like a good thing to me > I think it would be better to just put it > to a vote, as was initially discussed (iirc). The only thing that should > matter is what the community *prefers* to use. For every vote, the people voting need to be provided with as much good information as possible. Maybe iam just odd but i want to know if forgejo or the ML actually works better for the FFmpeg community before I decide how I vote. I assumed others also want to know that before they vote thx [...] --=20 Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB Give a rich man 100$ and he will turn it into 1000$. Give a poor man 1000$ and he will spend it. --3E/CmISRl7iMRv4/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABEKAB0WIQSf8hKLFH72cwut8TNhHseHBAsPqwUCaIaQbwAKCRBhHseHBAsP q4YUAJwKzXeqFg6/TH2HsVap7KP3oQB7EgCeNi8XORTMp6pE08Nu10TZt1qwX6A= =yHuN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3E/CmISRl7iMRv4/-- --===============7011090305013756739== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". --===============7011090305013756739==--