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From: Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] web: announce code.ffmpeg.org
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2025 22:47:47 +0200
Message-ID: <20250727204747.GU29660@pb2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250727140722.GB7604@haasn.xyz>


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Hi Niklas

On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 02:07:22PM +0200, Niklas Haas wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 01:04:34 +0200 Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc> wrote:
> > The announcment should probably mention that performance, as in number of
> > submissions / percentage of applied / not reviewed patches will be
> > monitored compared to the mailing list.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodhart%27s_law

I dont think the conditions of this are fullfilled


[...]

> Besides,
> performance metrics can be gamed.

Yes, if you know them AND you have an incentive to do so.
Do you know them ?
Do you (or anyone else here) have an incentive to game them ?
I do think we all just want to make the right decission

But theres a 3rd point, lets assume the metric is more contributions and
more reviewed, fewer unreviewed patches.

Imagine people try to game this and we thus have more contributions and
more reviewed, fewer unreviewed patches. That sounds like a good thing
to me


> I think it would be better to just put it
> to a vote, as was initially discussed (iirc). The only thing that should
> matter is what the community *prefers* to use.

For every vote, the people voting need to be provided with as much
good information as possible.

Maybe iam just odd but i want to know if forgejo or the ML actually works
better for the FFmpeg community before I decide how I vote.
I assumed others also want to know that before they vote

thx

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-07-27 20:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-22  3:53 Lynne
2025-07-22  8:44 ` Kacper Michajlow
2025-07-22  9:15   ` Jacob Lifshay
2025-07-25  3:40     ` compn
2025-07-25  3:58       ` Jacob Lifshay
2025-07-25  4:36         ` compn
2025-07-25 11:41         ` Nicolas George
2025-07-25 14:20           ` Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel
2025-07-23  4:05   ` Lynne
2025-07-22 15:01 ` Leo Izen
2025-07-23  4:01   ` Lynne
2025-07-22 23:04 ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-07-23  4:01   ` Lynne
2025-07-23  9:16     ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-07-23  9:39       ` Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel
2025-07-23  9:59         ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-07-23 10:02           ` Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel
2025-07-23 11:48           ` Nicolas George
2025-07-25  4:05           ` compn
2025-07-26 14:57             ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-07-23  9:38     ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-07-23 11:49       ` Nicolas George
2025-07-27 12:07   ` Niklas Haas
2025-07-27 12:41     ` Nicolas George
2025-07-27 20:47     ` Michael Niedermayer [this message]
2025-07-27 21:06       ` Diederick C. Niehorster
2025-07-26 17:03 ` Derek Buitenhuis
2025-07-26 19:29   ` Timo Rothenpieler
2025-07-26 20:01     ` Derek Buitenhuis
2025-07-26 20:14       ` Timo Rothenpieler
2025-07-26 20:24         ` Kacper Michajlow
2025-07-26 20:29           ` Derek Buitenhuis
2025-07-26 20:41           ` Timo Rothenpieler
2025-07-26 20:45             ` Derek Buitenhuis
2025-07-26 21:07             ` Kacper Michajlow
2025-07-26 21:18               ` Timo Rothenpieler
2025-07-26 22:44             ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-07-26 22:57               ` Timo Rothenpieler
2025-07-26 22:48             ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-07-27  9:40             ` Nicolas George
2025-07-27  9:39           ` Nicolas George
2025-07-27 16:48             ` Kacper Michajlow
2025-07-26 20:28         ` Derek Buitenhuis
2025-07-26 20:14     ` Kacper Michajlow
2025-07-26 20:23       ` Timo Rothenpieler
2025-07-26 20:29         ` Kacper Michajlow
2025-07-26 20:33           ` Derek Buitenhuis

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