From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB3764BF1A for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2025 22:44:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D95468CFC7; Sun, 27 Jul 2025 01:44:18 +0300 (EEST) Received: from relay1-d.mail.gandi.net (relay1-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.193]) by ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 19CD368A114 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2025 01:44:11 +0300 (EEST) Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1E0A94327E for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2025 22:44:10 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=niedermayer.cc; s=gm1; t=1753569851; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=M7kjF5y1xVqjtnSbEQPIUlxFqNgFYwsuQdLkXW408SA=; b=UrHynefTKs1xiFDXlcwc3IaqWwzmGzGk544Z0idcF7WBq1E4RO7emp1KDSRwbrEsw4rvcX lu2uNcmbIX599BIasmWPzh7LPatdqWw6sHGS808Yz3VbeiTJgXFsbXcV9nR+E1y7jgHlkq kRuQSURBmrD5BAPDqyS7zF7cdv5a8W1zvUhZoW8B/LlPNzr7dFVmnQ3H9Du1DXfHkBsVDx 4imbYa1j6WCoyDU2Ywo3kvreHJYP84w5L3bWUV0B5GJjqZcTpiQ32f+ibKzYpFGE7RPQb5 FXx1sZJp53SqC/qDHfNbfGVMG3OrEJ1RlXJQeY/WvK063nTozqy8Ixz/E9OOvQ== Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2025 00:44:09 +0200 From: Michael Niedermayer To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Message-ID: <20250726224409.GS29660@pb2> References: <20250722035337.2216565-1-dev@lynne.ee> <577d17cb-a056-49c0-bf71-870e00684b37@gmail.com> <8ec2eab1-1a2e-4607-9186-3d55c9335e3a@rothenpieler.org> <9ba27e8b-f890-4b34-a2a0-6245bb050145@rothenpieler.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ba27e8b-f890-4b34-a2a0-6245bb050145@rothenpieler.org> X-GND-State: clean X-GND-Score: -85 X-GND-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeeffedrtdefgdekjeeigecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfitefpfffkpdcuggftfghnshhusghstghrihgsvgenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedtudenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmnegfrhhlucfvnfffucdludehmdenucfjughrpeffhffvuffkfhggtggujgesghdtreertddtvdenucfhrhhomhepofhitghhrggvlhcupfhivgguvghrmhgrhigvrhcuoehmihgthhgrvghlsehnihgvuggvrhhmrgihvghrrdgttgeqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepffeltdefveefffehueeuhfdtjeeileeufedtiedtgfehteegffeffeetkefftdfhnecuffhomhgrihhnpehffhhmphgvghdrohhrghenucfkphepgedurdeiiedrieehrddujeeinecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehinhgvthepgedurdeiiedrieehrddujeeipdhhvghloheplhhotggrlhhhohhsthdpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehmihgthhgrvghlsehnihgvuggvrhhmrgihvghrrdgttgdpnhgspghrtghpthhtohepuddprhgtphhtthhopehffhhmphgvghdquggvvhgvlhesfhhfmhhpvghgrdhorhhg X-GND-Sasl: michael@niedermayer.cc Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] web: announce code.ffmpeg.org X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2510768998359947104==" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --===============2510768998359947104== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Zd+EW/jp0VHrhGAH" Content-Disposition: inline --Zd+EW/jp0VHrhGAH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Timo On Sat, Jul 26, 2025 at 10:41:57PM +0200, Timo Rothenpieler wrote: > On 7/26/2025 10:24 PM, Kacper Michajlow wrote: > > On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 at 22:14, Timo Rothenpieler = wrote: > > >=20 > > > On 7/26/2025 10:01 PM, Derek Buitenhuis wrote: > > > > On 7/26/2025 8:29 PM, Timo Rothenpieler wrote: [...] > > Also, I don't think the current ML workflow is very sophisticated on > > ffmpeg-devel, so there are likely not many tools to migrate to the new > > one. >=20 > You'd be surprised about the sophisticated tooling a lot of people have > built around patch wrangling via a mailing-list. >=20 > A lot of people will need to learn an entire new workflow, and I can > absolutely understand that being forced to do so from one day to the next= is > very disruptive and off putting. yes, we need decissions that everyone is on board with, even if they did not vote for the winning choice. I think the gitlab vs forgejo decission was such a decission, it had a very clear outcome. This testing period can show that forgejo works better and that it leads to more contributors and fewer unreviewed patches. Or it can fail to do so. I think having the result of that testing, could convince most people which is the right choice [...] >=20 > > It's just my personal opinion and it doesn't reflect anyone else in > > the community. >=20 > I'm completely with you that we desperately need to move forward. > But there just are a lot of people who've been with the project for a long > time who are not comfortable with it or outright reject it. > Do we really want to just leave them behind, and not even give them a cha= nce > to learn new tools? yes, exactly, i think we should make sure everyone moves together and just speaking about myself how do i replace git send email ? do we have a drop in replacement for that ? will reply to the suggestion in a seperate mail thx --=20 Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB No great genius has ever existed without some touch of madness. -- Aristotle --Zd+EW/jp0VHrhGAH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABEKAB0WIQSf8hKLFH72cwut8TNhHseHBAsPqwUCaIVaMwAKCRBhHseHBAsP q5vBAJ47iwb2h6V8eANwGe2LJ+uRH/6dGACffaE5es93Ej4KdE3PJ9wTZWj4g7w= =Hk9C -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Zd+EW/jp0VHrhGAH-- --===============2510768998359947104== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". --===============2510768998359947104==--