From: Niklas Haas <ffmpeg@haasn.xyz> To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Again pre-multiplied alpha Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2025 13:11:54 +0200 Message-ID: <20250724131154.GB95314@haasn.xyz> (raw) In-Reply-To: <aIEVjvmc3bpOP0Zr@phare.normalesup.org> On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 19:02:06 +0200 Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> wrote: > Niklas Haas (HE12025-07-23): > > [PATCH v2 05/18] avcodec/encode: enforce alpha mode compatibility at encode time > > That handles it for encoders, I suppose. But I do not see anything > protecting you from stacking images with different kind of alpha or > sending this kind of frames to a muxer with uncoded frames. That is no worse than the status quo, so I fail to see how this patch is a regression in this regard. That aside, there is also not anything preventing you from doing the same for images with a different chroma sample location, or different HDR metadata, or different sample aspect ratios, or any of the other oodles of properties (including arbitrarily extensible frame side data) that are not currently participating in libavfilter format negotiation. In a perfect world, we would have automatic format negotiation for every AVFrame property; but as it stands, the libavfilter code is too obnoxious, brittle and inflexible to permit such while remaining sane. While redesigning libavfilter to make it more extensible would certainly be a useful exercise (perhaps a good STF 2025 candidate?), I think that rather exceeds the scope of this patchset. > > Regards, > > -- > Nicolas George > _______________________________________________ > ffmpeg-devel mailing list > ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org > https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel > > To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email > ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-24 11:12 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2025-07-23 13:47 [FFmpeg-devel] (no subject) Niklas Haas 2025-07-23 13:47 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 01/18] avutil/frame: add AVFrame.alpha_mode Niklas Haas 2025-07-23 16:00 ` Kacper Michajlow 2025-07-23 13:47 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 02/18] fftools/ffprobe: add support for AVFrame.alpha_mode Niklas Haas 2025-07-23 13:47 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 03/18] avfilter/vf_showinfo: print alpha mode when relevant Niklas Haas 2025-07-23 16:11 ` Kacper Michajlow 2025-07-24 11:19 ` Niklas Haas 2025-07-23 13:47 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 04/18] avcodec/avcodec: add AVCodecContext.alpha_mode Niklas Haas 2025-07-23 13:47 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 05/18] avcodec/encode: enforce alpha mode compatibility at encode time Niklas Haas 2025-07-23 13:47 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 06/18] avcodec/png: set correct alpha mode Niklas Haas 2025-07-23 13:47 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 07/18] avcodec/exr: " Niklas Haas 2025-07-23 13:47 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 08/18] avcodec/libjxl: " Niklas Haas 2025-07-23 13:47 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 09/18] avcodec/libjxlenc: also attach extra channel info Niklas Haas 2025-07-23 13:47 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 10/18] avcodec/jpegxl: parse and signal correct alpha mode Niklas Haas 2025-07-23 16:19 ` Kacper Michajlow 2025-07-24 11:13 ` Niklas Haas 2025-07-23 13:47 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 11/18] avfilter/vf_scale: don't ignore incoming chroma location Niklas Haas 2025-07-24 11:16 ` Niklas Haas 2025-07-23 13:47 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 12/18] fftools/ffmpeg_enc: don't ignore user selected " Niklas Haas 2025-07-23 13:47 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 13/18] fftools/ffmpeg_enc: forward frame alpha mode to encoder Niklas Haas 2025-07-23 13:47 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 14/18] avfilter/vf_premultiply: tag correct alpha mode on result Niklas Haas 2025-07-23 13:47 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 15/18] avfilter/vf_alphamerge: tag correct alpha mode Niklas Haas 2025-07-23 13:47 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 16/18] avfilter/vf_overlay: respect alpha mode tagging by default Niklas Haas 2025-07-23 13:47 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 17/18] avfilter/vf_setparams: add alpha_mode parameter Niklas Haas 2025-07-23 13:47 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 18/18] avfilter/vf_libplacebo: add an alpha_mode setting Niklas Haas 2025-07-23 14:11 ` [FFmpeg-devel] Again pre-multiplied alpha Nicolas George 2025-07-23 15:18 ` Niklas Haas 2025-07-23 17:02 ` Nicolas George 2025-07-24 11:11 ` Niklas Haas [this message] 2025-07-24 14:59 ` Nicolas George 2025-07-24 20:58 ` Niklas Haas
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