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From: Niklas Haas <ffmpeg@haasn.xyz>
To: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org
Subject: [FFmpeg-devel] (no subject)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2025 15:47:03 +0200
Message-ID: <20250723135626.1390296-1-ffmpeg@haasn.xyz> (raw)

Changes since v1:
- Correctly implement alpha mode tagging for JPEG XL
- Set correct alpha mode for OpenEXR (which is always premultiplied)
- Ensure -alpha_mode specified on the command line correctly propagates
- Print out a warning when overriding the alpha mode explicitly

Includes an unrelated fix for -chroma_sample_location also being ignored,
since the fix for that was adjacent to the fix for the alpha mode field.

Submitting this for re-evaluation. I decided in the end not to include full
negotiation for the alpha mode, primarily because there is no filter currently
existing that only handles one or the other.

The only thing that represents a source of incompatibility is the codec itself,
but that already errors out with a clearly defined error message when
requesting an incompatible alpha mode - and I think the explicit fix (i.e.
user inserts the corresponding (un)premultiply filter) is bettter than an
implicit conversion, due to the potential for loss of information as well as
breaking workflows that rely on additive blending (which only works for
premultiplied alpha and thus cannot be converted - even explicitly).

If the error message is really bothersome, we could add a small routine inside
libavcodec for applying the unpremultiplication directly, but this would IMO
be a layering violation. (Not to mention duplicating code)

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             reply	other threads:[~2025-07-23 13:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-23 13:47 Niklas Haas [this message]
2025-07-23 13:47 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 01/18] avutil/frame: add AVFrame.alpha_mode Niklas Haas
2025-07-23 16:00   ` Kacper Michajlow
2025-07-23 13:47 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 02/18] fftools/ffprobe: add support for AVFrame.alpha_mode Niklas Haas
2025-07-23 13:47 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 03/18] avfilter/vf_showinfo: print alpha mode when relevant Niklas Haas
2025-07-23 16:11   ` Kacper Michajlow
2025-07-24 11:19     ` Niklas Haas
2025-07-23 13:47 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 04/18] avcodec/avcodec: add AVCodecContext.alpha_mode Niklas Haas
2025-07-23 13:47 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 05/18] avcodec/encode: enforce alpha mode compatibility at encode time Niklas Haas
2025-07-23 13:47 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 06/18] avcodec/png: set correct alpha mode Niklas Haas
2025-07-23 13:47 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 07/18] avcodec/exr: " Niklas Haas
2025-07-23 13:47 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 08/18] avcodec/libjxl: " Niklas Haas
2025-07-23 13:47 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 09/18] avcodec/libjxlenc: also attach extra channel info Niklas Haas
2025-07-23 13:47 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 10/18] avcodec/jpegxl: parse and signal correct alpha mode Niklas Haas
2025-07-23 16:19   ` Kacper Michajlow
2025-07-24 11:13     ` Niklas Haas
2025-07-23 13:47 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 11/18] avfilter/vf_scale: don't ignore incoming chroma location Niklas Haas
2025-07-24 11:16   ` Niklas Haas
2025-07-23 13:47 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 12/18] fftools/ffmpeg_enc: don't ignore user selected " Niklas Haas
2025-07-23 13:47 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 13/18] fftools/ffmpeg_enc: forward frame alpha mode to encoder Niklas Haas
2025-07-23 13:47 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 14/18] avfilter/vf_premultiply: tag correct alpha mode on result Niklas Haas
2025-07-23 13:47 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 15/18] avfilter/vf_alphamerge: tag correct alpha mode Niklas Haas
2025-07-23 13:47 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 16/18] avfilter/vf_overlay: respect alpha mode tagging by default Niklas Haas
2025-07-23 13:47 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 17/18] avfilter/vf_setparams: add alpha_mode parameter Niklas Haas
2025-07-23 13:47 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 18/18] avfilter/vf_libplacebo: add an alpha_mode setting Niklas Haas
2025-07-23 14:11 ` [FFmpeg-devel] Again pre-multiplied alpha Nicolas George
2025-07-23 15:18   ` Niklas Haas
2025-07-23 17:02     ` Nicolas George
2025-07-24 11:11       ` Niklas Haas
2025-07-24 14:59         ` Nicolas George
2025-07-24 20:58           ` Niklas Haas
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2025-05-27  7:55 [FFmpeg-devel] (no subject) Niklas Haas
2025-05-27  8:29 ` Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel
2025-05-27  8:51   ` Niklas Haas
2024-08-07 15:58 cyfdel-at-hotmail.com
2024-04-18  9:42 pengxu
2024-04-18  7:36 pengxu
2023-10-14  8:40 Logan.Lyu
2023-10-14  8:40 Logan.Lyu
2023-10-14  8:39 Logan.Lyu
2023-10-14  8:39 Logan.Lyu
2023-07-17  7:08 Водянников Александр
2023-02-09 14:25 [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] avdevice/xcbgrab: enable window resizing aline.gondimsantos
2023-02-09 18:19 ` [FFmpeg-devel] (no subject) Aline Gondim Santos
2022-07-17 13:32 facefunk

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