From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 566E54DBA6 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2025 10:15:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E51E68F7B1; Fri, 4 Jul 2025 13:15:37 +0300 (EEST) Received: from relay2-d.mail.gandi.net (relay2-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.194]) by ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5EA4A68EDF6 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2025 13:15:30 +0300 (EEST) Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A2CE443190 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2025 10:15:29 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=niedermayer.cc; s=gm1; t=1751624129; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=GagRAL3VTxWIDeLuA7S5VB0kPcMgtH526o7VDPP9/MU=; b=XyvbSbu461cnvrVLvSYP7afS4dZf1bRizMUe9IAn0jgTZzKW03rdLUV+tu/Zb4L4hjDhVZ ipVICUNWp6cPwR6r9haSjd892O/AgXf3No3pHiJSTAh9+DJc4jPjNyMfi1a6l+1+LMOwTs UU2tZ1EPGhdONnvQMqoglRYnquagmW0XpzpISzrMM1PfuIrLLw1ndN7J5w2v0YVoNl4l7d SJUcQrKzEVX+MVf0CsrPXdYJSTwcAOWTMg33M41Di1XBTIz2DfYzvkuX55T52lWWt7TnCP 4cUzlqPEg8VbkDAsxX47KkH20pYLFoBrqQR0bDqrRBmD8uH6fkHZMB8B6i2Wog== Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2025 12:15:28 +0200 From: Michael Niedermayer To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Message-ID: <20250704101528.GS29660@pb2> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-GND-State: clean X-GND-Score: -70 X-GND-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeeffedrtdefgddvvdeklecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfitefpfffkpdcuggftfghnshhusghstghrihgsvgenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedtudenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmnegfrhhlucfvnfffucdlfedtmdenucfjughrpeffhffvuffkfhggtggujgesghdtreertddtvdenucfhrhhomhepofhitghhrggvlhcupfhivgguvghrmhgrhigvrhcuoehmihgthhgrvghlsehnihgvuggvrhhmrgihvghrrdgttgeqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepieegkedtjeduffejhfetgeejtdegteetgfegtdfhjefgvefhteegkeejtddvhfevnecukfhppeeguddrieeirdeiiedrvddvjeenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepihhnvghtpeeguddrieeirdeiiedrvddvjedphhgvlhhopehlohgtrghlhhhoshhtpdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepmhhitghhrggvlhesnhhivgguvghrmhgrhigvrhdrtggtpdhnsggprhgtphhtthhopedupdhrtghpthhtohepfhhfmhhpvghgqdguvghvvghlsehffhhmphgvghdrohhrgh X-GND-Sasl: michael@niedermayer.cc Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] Introducing policies regarding "AI" contributions X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0730359292456261763==" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --===============0730359292456261763== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="idWhmhIw+yKNYPBd" Content-Disposition: inline --idWhmhIw+yKNYPBd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi The use of tools to assist developers is growing and will continue to grow. Its not going away. And what one can and cannot do with these tools will evolve I dont think i understand the thought process behind this policy. Licenses need to be complied to, code needs to be of good quality. If a tool can help with that, you use it, if not you dont. If you dont know, you try. I think we should ensure that (static copies) of our bug tracker, mailing list archieve and git repository are accessible to these tools. Otherwise we will see more * ddos by the tools trying to bypass restrictions [you know, the developer saying "search this", the tool replying with "its behind anubis", the developer asking "what can i do?" teh tool producing a script that ddos us becuase "bypassing restrictions" directs teh LLM to mallicious scripts, thats just the context in which "bypassing restrictions" occu= rs] * code generators incorporating code from outside that is incompatibly lice= nsed If a code generator can see all our code it should preferably use it if it can see none of it, it will use forums and random bits of code off the internet. Not all of which is LGPL compatible so again, IMHO if you are afraid of license issues the very first thing= to do is ensure our code and coding docs are accessible to the tools generating code * generally tools being less usefull as they have less ffmpeg specific context thx [...] --=20 Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB Whats the most studid thing your enemy could do ? Blow himself up Whats the most studid thing you could do ? 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