From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A7CD34DDC4 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2025 20:42:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E7FF68D8EA; Wed, 4 Jun 2025 23:42:24 +0300 (EEST) Received: from relay1-d.mail.gandi.net (relay1-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.193]) by ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C4CFC68CA75 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2025 23:42:18 +0300 (EEST) Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1E14943A58 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2025 20:42:17 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=niedermayer.cc; s=gm1; t=1749069738; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=p1woiaO2kOQ6ytlv6TJ+FiqSfNzCvNLKUoPX8I7j8QU=; b=jNHr6A8wN+IdwCcsz4dChkYhUhfQTtv3TSPIuHZY3WPZDYS5bX8iP908W/viqVYvttIx7L Ffm2PKmqLEohX1jFH0a/dwvk3peqE84UhDWjt4HCVRmMTsJPXilhJ3m3AYteEROascrDz8 ouPSiP+an5d9+9LsuOWQ+Isa4S1JtP6EHT5ejRujl/58xzCylnWBN/9IZ8MyVsdiLZZ75Q xoQQ7EfDjuMeejhAJXoRjBy9R9yoIiw7xUUFl1bSISjOK13FnhIA4fFYcS55GAaLKMAqoM 6a8OqTUvg6CfuuJSqAGPlZ/aoNOBFXp66WT74LYt56oQ0jcOWL/1iSq4Yo3VQw== Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2025 22:42:16 +0200 From: Michael Niedermayer To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Message-ID: <20250604204216.GT29660@pb2> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-GND-State: clean X-GND-Score: -70 X-GND-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeeffedrtddugddvieehucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuifetpfffkfdpucggtfgfnhhsuhgsshgtrhhisggvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddunecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenfghrlhcuvffnffculdeftddmnecujfgurhepfffhvffukfhfgggtuggjsehgtderredttddvnecuhfhrohhmpefoihgthhgrvghlucfpihgvuggvrhhmrgihvghruceomhhitghhrggvlhesnhhivgguvghrmhgrhigvrhdrtggtqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeeigeektdejudffjefhteegjedtgeettefggedthfejgfevhfetgeekjedtvdfhveenucfkphepgedurdeiiedrieejrdduudefnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehinhgvthepgedurdeiiedrieejrdduudefpdhhvghloheplhhotggrlhhhohhsthdpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehmihgthhgrvghlsehnihgvuggvrhhmrgihvghrrdgttgdpnhgspghrtghpthhtohepuddprhgtphhtthhopehffhhmphgvghdquggvvhgvlhesfhhfmhhpvghgrdhorhhg X-GND-Sasl: michael@niedermayer.cc Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] Subtitle Filtering Ramp-Up X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2540253857828001021==" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --===============2540253857828001021== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6qwK1L4ASmC+eXbp" Content-Disposition: inline --6qwK1L4ASmC+eXbp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Nicolas On Wed, Jun 04, 2025 at 09:13:44AM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > Zach Swena (HE12025-06-03): [...] > > > This is why I have been trying to ask high level questions. His old > > subtitle filtering patchset would need a lot of rework to bring to the > > current codebase so starting over isn't a bad idea. I don't really care > > who works on or makes the commits for the code as long as the resulting > > code is clean, makes sense to other developers and accomplishes what > > everyone needs. There are structural changes needed for what I want an= d it > > would be good to find a solution that allows for functionality for > > additional processing options also. >=20 > His old filtering patchet was broken beyond repair, and nothing changed. >=20 > Just to give an idea of my position on the topic: during one of the > first VDDs, possibly the first one, I co-hosted with Ubitux a > multi-hours brainstorming session on the matter of subtitles in > libavfilter. That is how much I want to keep subtitles out of > libavfilter, and that is how little time I have spent on it anticipating > problems and finding solution. >=20 > When I say that softworkz's approach is broken, I know what I am > talking about. >=20 > It is broken in three ways. Is it possible to create 3 testcases that one can just copy and paste to the command line to see these 3 problems ? If its possible, it would clearly show the problems and avoid a never ending disagreement thx [...] --=20 Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB Rewriting code that is poorly written but fully understood is good. 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