From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ABEC34D6AF for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2025 19:23:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DF9068D780; Sun, 1 Jun 2025 22:23:29 +0300 (EEST) Received: from relay5-d.mail.gandi.net (relay5-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.197]) by ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EAA6E68B8A0 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2025 22:23:22 +0300 (EEST) Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DF6E243A6C for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2025 19:23:21 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=niedermayer.cc; s=gm1; t=1748805802; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=XF4W04Pt3NRxArHCOxkl1AB39WIQVjUm/EruwufSTq8=; b=gmHurmRzTrGPeUBS/N+Ij44DGmI1LYngEgMaqS65KmIBVz0OBQezlxjNgMJGQd2ezVs92q k6y62vg2fNO2w9aVVOA2I8UurG/CVJRXB4/gqPl/7dlfhTdFjYFey3ccUs4tX7+/hsfxjr FcXTLbOZkeHZCChXvTf5toMzfdZi1TYxdxVj602GrizdQIKuwuaD7AjEodx1Uch11TK1wr hPdM/X1sWEtWRyVQ0fQwvQ9YKLzVV9Cc2ockOLFYaUleb5cbQjE9G4dETgvyC/OtKzjCu3 KCvzd6jp79QhX3sXFARIzM3IkM/4KHfwgqLZwjyffw3ueIBOvf1EX4VIMdsweA== Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2025 21:23:20 +0200 From: Michael Niedermayer To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Message-ID: <20250601192320.GV29660@pb2> References: <20250601152222.GU29660@pb2> <7fa92fbb-f6cb-40c1-b95e-3d6a77e6cbcf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7fa92fbb-f6cb-40c1-b95e-3d6a77e6cbcf@gmail.com> X-GND-State: clean X-GND-Score: -70 X-GND-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeeffedrtddtgdefheeivdculddtuddrgeefvddrtddtmdcutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfitefpfffkpdcuggftfghnshhusghstghrihgsvgenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedtudenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmnegfrhhlucfvnfffucdlfedtmdenucfjughrpeffhffvuffkfhggtggujgesghdtreertddtvdenucfhrhhomhepofhitghhrggvlhcupfhivgguvghrmhgrhigvrhcuoehmihgthhgrvghlsehnihgvuggvrhhmrgihvghrrdgttgeqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepieegkedtjeduffejhfetgeejtdegteetgfegtdfhjefgvefhteegkeejtddvhfevnecukfhppeeguddrieeirdeijedruddufeenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepihhnvghtpeeguddrieeirdeijedruddufedphhgvlhhopehlohgtrghlhhhoshhtpdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepmhhitghhrggvlhesnhhivgguvghrmhgrhigvrhdrtggtpdhnsggprhgtphhtthhopedupdhrtghpthhtohepfhhfmhhpvghgqdguvghvvghlsehffhhmphgvghdrohhrgh X-GND-Sasl: michael@niedermayer.cc Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] Cherry picks vs merges X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7015953188009641018==" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --===============7015953188009641018== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="rD1I6+YE847ukgsi" Content-Disposition: inline --rD1I6+YE847ukgsi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi James On Sun, Jun 01, 2025 at 02:27:37PM -0300, James Almer wrote: > On 6/1/2025 12:22 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > Hi all > >=20 > > almpeg is now merged upto 1 months ago. (and since last merge it contai= ns > > bits of AGPL code) > >=20 > > The question now is, how does the community want to proceed from here? > Full stop. >=20 > Not only you're trying to bypass explicit a license notice on > technicalities, This is a serious accusation. Code is either under the LGPL license or it is not. It cannot be sometimes under the LGPL license, the license headers on the files in question, distrinbuted by Paul are unmodified LGPL headers. There is no extra notice or anything in these headers. If paul wants them to be GPL he can change these headers at any time. And the "explicit license notice" you refer to is this: "All Librempeg modifications, and any new files not available in FFmpeg, ar= e licensed under GPL v2, unless stated otherwise." And it IS stated otherwise in these files by the license header in these files. That said, with open source and free software it is the morally correct thing, if one makes changes to code, to return these changes to the parent project under the same license as the parent project. This is morally the ONLY correct thing one can do. The technicality is that one can change the LGPL to a GPL or AGPL. The purpose of this is allowing to combine LGPL with GPL or AGPL NOT to fork a project and prevent the parent project and its users =66rom having access to the modifications. You can listen to some interviews by linus torvalds if you think my point here is crazy. I will reply to the rest of your mail seperately to keep this from becoming too long But one thing id like to mention here, your accusation escalates this in a way that could reduce the chance of paul returning. And I tried my best and i talked (emailed) with paul in the last days. You knew i was working on this and i would have appreciated a private message over a public accusation thx --=20 Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB The misfortune of the wise is better than the prosperity of the fool. -- Epicurus --rD1I6+YE847ukgsi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABEKAB0WIQSf8hKLFH72cwut8TNhHseHBAsPqwUCaDyopAAKCRBhHseHBAsP q4UFAJ9bsntKB0cXkEA9LCuigFUF8LiP6ACfW76lZ6t7ULeXrZ93OsQc1q1qgbY= =q1ol -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --rD1I6+YE847ukgsi-- --===============7015953188009641018== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". --===============7015953188009641018==--