From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D148C4C1E6 for ; Fri, 23 May 2025 15:59:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6FFC68CC5A; Fri, 23 May 2025 18:59:19 +0300 (EEST) Received: from relay2-d.mail.gandi.net (relay2-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.194]) by ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 547FA68CB8F for ; Fri, 23 May 2025 18:59:12 +0300 (EEST) Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8BB96438D3 for ; Fri, 23 May 2025 15:59:11 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=niedermayer.cc; s=gm1; t=1748015951; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=mL5qFT9Ylv35j9T34qTDQYNrDcucIi+GBtG8lqwCSAU=; b=Sv1kbO9KuJXzhBRx5VAu9CGZFVmn37EedGAV1J5ApwMPWakWHNdoc6XYH7ON3mVK0iqVQf kigvmG7CfB2SlXuFbfq2FhmXkv3VazkZXKw9gBSjjQI7BdXcJfGaY+Ha5Xlv9c7CzdOM3i 8PfyCNm4pG2StUteu7+p+7YrSagUG6jJxq1Le2L5O+OXGZWx4CNreUecNHRiNT7I1/Xt9s b5ECWSUrRjt2LPT/cqvsTik7wcmKBsrMfDcQFKMFlXYHWW6GsYsW4d/AtlPm42JxDOuTw+ f+kS2rHte/SgSpOEk80XU59SoAI/rbV94wMnnUqZUEGtedIGOJhclrrdETAVnw== Date: Fri, 23 May 2025 17:59:10 +0200 From: Michael Niedermayer To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Message-ID: <20250523155910.GC29660@pb2> References: <20250523094514.GW29660@pb2> <20250523095801.GX29660@pb2> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-GND-State: clean X-GND-Score: -70 X-GND-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeeffedrtddtgdelvdejucdltddurdegfedvrddttddmucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuifetpfffkfdpucggtfgfnhhsuhgsshgtrhhisggvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddunecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenfghrlhcuvffnffculdeftddmnecujfgurhepfffhvffukfhfgggtuggjsehgtderredttdejnecuhfhrohhmpefoihgthhgrvghlucfpihgvuggvrhhmrgihvghruceomhhitghhrggvlhesnhhivgguvghrmhgrhigvrhdrtggtqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeelkeeggfffiedufeejueffjeduhedttdduledtheevveevtdeiueelhfdtuedtkeenucfkphepgedurdeiiedrieejrdduudefnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehinhgvthepgedurdeiiedrieejrdduudefpdhhvghloheplhhotggrlhhhohhsthdpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehmihgthhgrvghlsehnihgvuggvrhhmrgihvghrrdgttgdpnhgspghrtghpthhtohepuddprhgtphhtthhopehffhhmphgvghdquggvvhgvlhesfhhfmhhpvghgrdhorhhg X-GND-Sasl: michael@niedermayer.cc Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] STF RaptorQ X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5964423648606456154==" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --===============5964423648606456154== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BXaYPDOnwJ/WStkS" Content-Disposition: inline --BXaYPDOnwJ/WStkS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Devin On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 10:57:37AM -0400, Devin Heitmueller wrote: > On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 5:58=E2=80=AFAM Michael Niedermayer > wrote: > > Theres also the human element, where people are not machienes that can > > be placed and told things arbitrary. RaptorQ is "cool", ARQ is boring > > > > Some people enjoy working on "cool" things, dont tell them to work on > > boring things please. Its bad for them, and likely bad for the results. > > > > If you find RIST/SRT important, you should work on it, or fund someone > > to do it or to submit a project idea to STF/GsoC/... and work on it > > with their funding ... > > > > Also IMO if you have someone who wants to do a project that moves FFmpeg > > forward, be supportive of the effort and try to find a way to make it h= appen > > be that inside or outside STF. > > Arguing against efforts to move to teh cutting edge of technology > > will do only one thing and thats havig competitors take the space > > and FFmpeg fall behind >=20 > To be clear, I have no desire to discourage developers from working on > anything that interests them. I've spoken to Lynne about her txproto > work, and while I can't offer any guidance due to the NDA with my > employer, I admire her initiative and really hope that research turns > into something useful. >=20 > This discussion though really started about what the scope of work is > that can be funded by STF. My understanding is that STF intends for > the funds to be used for maintenance and work that contributes toward > project sustainability. At least for me personally, I am not > confident I could argue that the RaptorQ work proposed falls within > that definition. yes, as it was proposed on the wiki and as i remember STF, i agree. thx [...] --=20 Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB No great genius has ever existed without some touch of madness. -- Aristotle --BXaYPDOnwJ/WStkS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABEKAB0WIQSf8hKLFH72cwut8TNhHseHBAsPqwUCaDCbSgAKCRBhHseHBAsP q+J1AJ9EhiU9tKqmdzArPhae/S1MpaqhogCghe6M+ZFgvwbIjfwzGazF4pTRPGY= =02vM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BXaYPDOnwJ/WStkS-- --===============5964423648606456154== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". --===============5964423648606456154==--