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From: Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc>
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Hi

On Tue, Apr 22, 2025 at 09:58:14PM -0100, Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel wr=
ote:
> On Fri, 15 Nov 2024, 18:12 Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel, <
> ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> wrote:
>=20
> > Hi,
> >
> > Am 17.05.24 um 15:49 schrieb Michael Niedermayer:
> > > Hi all
> > >
> > > Before this is forgotten again, better start some dicsussion too early
> > than too late
> > >
> > > I propose that if we have the oppertunity again next year to receive a
> > grant
> > > from STF. That we use it to fund:
> > >
> > > [...]
> > the trac page for the STF 2025 application is available:
> >
> > https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/SponsoringPrograms/STF/2025
> >
> > If you want to propose a project, add it to the end of the page.
> > Include an overview, a developer to work on it (most likely yourself), a
> > duration and the milestones together with corresponding deliverables. T=
here
> > is a template, look at the 2024 page if you're unsure.
> >
> > We should finalize the discussion about proposed projects and create the
> > application before end of the year, so that STF can start looking at our
> > proposal first thing in 2025.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Thilo
> >
>=20
> This page is empty

Its not litterally empty, it contains templates and description how to add
entries. But no entries.
its a publically editable wiki. Any FFmpeg developer can add an entry

Last year I, Thilo and Pierre (and probably others) worked on and pushed
for STF sponsonsoring to happen. You know pushed people to add entries and
added entries myself so the minimum threashold was reached

Spend lots of time that was intended to be "not ffmpeg time" on doing the
work. And then was accused of "things", thilo was accused too. I think
Pierre saw us being accused and didnt want to become the next one.

I think Niklas wants to continue doing swscale work in 2025 with STF but
he hasnt added an entry yet. Maybe as some of the 2024 STF work got delayed
and took longer, i dont know.

That said, i would very much welcome Thilo and Pierre to manage this.
But it does require people to propose some projects. It also would
benefit from a friendlier environment.

Besides this
maybe people can use sozial media and twitter to remind all ffmpeg develope=
rs
to add entries to the STF 2025 wiki page. Otherwise it will be STF 2026 and
nothing in 2025

thx

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