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From: Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc>
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On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 10:59:07PM +0000, softworkz . wrote:
>=20
>=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ffmpeg-devel <ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org> On Behalf Of
> > Michael Niedermayer
> > Sent: Mittwoch, 16. April 2025 00:50
> > To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-
> > devel@ffmpeg.org>
> > Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 2/2] avformat/id3v2: Check that
> > decode_str() did advance
> >=20
> > On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 07:59:00PM +0000, softworkz . wrote:
> > [...]
> >=20
> > > - The representation of multi-values - both, internally and when
> > >   outputting as probe data - is a de-facto standard
> >=20
> > The external handling in formats is specified in the corresponing
> > specifications. ";" is certainly not correct for formats which
> > natively support multiple values per key.
> >=20
> > Internally, if you have a data structure that represents multiple
> > authors, you certainly do not set it to one author and a string
> > with a bunch of semicolons seperating multiple authors
> >=20
> > Title: "Smile ;)"
> > Author "Smily Face ;)"
> >=20
> > is not 2 Titles and not 2 Authors and software that cannot handle that
> > should not be used as reference IMHO
> >=20
> > That said, anything that works is fine with me,
> >=20
> > But internally it will be better to use a representation that is
> > universal, generic and simple, ";" may seem to be that but only
> > as long as you do nothing with it and dont care about corner cases
> >=20
> > Ill leave this ";" question to everyone else, i have a backlog
> > of quite a few things i need to work on
>=20
> This is not a great outcome, because "leaving everyone else" means=20
> nothing will happen.

I have a release to do, I have contracts that i should be working on,
as iam a few month behind some deadline, I have a backlog of fuzzer
issues i wanted to look at. I have a backlog of other things

And this ";" thing is close to the last thing i want to spend my time on ;)


>=20
> At least revert the rcombs patch until there's a conclusion, because
> it really makes things worse than better with regards to FFprobe=20
> output.

I guess thats reasonable.
I will revert it, and then stay out of this unless it reaches the TC
(where I as member will participate in finding a solution)


> This will cause deserialization errors for many people in the world
> who are processing FFprobe data.

As said, ffprobe should not produce troublesome output

thx

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