From: Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] AVDictionary2
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2025 22:50:47 +0200
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On Tue, Apr 08, 2025 at 12:19:59PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> Hi all
>
> As i have too many things to do already i did the most logic thing and
> started thinking about a new and unrelated idea.
>
> This is a list of problems and ideas, that everyone is welcome to add to and
> comment on.
>
> AVDictionary is just bad.
>
> * its complicated internally with
> unneeded alternative (AV_DICT_DONT_STRDUP_VAL/KEY) these are rarely used
> and probably not relevant for performance.
>
> * all basic operations are as slow as possible.
> you want to find, update or remove an entry, search through all entries
>
> * its heavy on memory allocations
> 1 malloc for key, 1 malloc for value, 1 realloc on the AVDictionaryEntry array
> that makes 2+ malloc() for every "foo"="bar"
>
> Ideas:
> 1. put the node struct (AVDictionaryEntry), the key and value in the same
> allocated block, 1 malloc() instead of 2.
> We can simply concatenate the key and value string, we could even use the
> 0 terminator instead of the 2nd pointer. Either way the whole
> can go to the end of the Node structure for a tree
> 1b. Now if we did put the key and value together, we can order in the tree
> by this combined entity. Why ? because now we have a unique ordering
> and also the key+value could be required to be always unique. Simplifying
> things from what we have now and making it more replicatable, no
> more changes in output because order changed
> 2. We have a simple AVL tree implementation which we could use to make
> all operations O(log n) instead of O(n)
> 3. We could go with hash tables, splay trees, critbit trees or something
> else. hash tables have issues with malicious/odd input which would
> require more complexity to workaround.
>
> Of course we could also go a step further and eliminate the malloc per
> node and put it all in a linear array.
> As in, insert -> append at the end,
> realloc with every power of 2 size increase
> complete rebuild once enough elements are removed
> not sure this isnt overkill for a metadata string dictionary
>
> I probably wont have time to implement this in the near future but as i
> was thinking about this, it seemed to make sense to write this down and
> post here
>
> git grep av_dict | wc is 1436
>
> So its used a bit, justifying looking at improving it
>
>
> git grep AV_DICT_DONT_STRDUP | wc is 87
> git grep AV_DICT_DONT_STRDUP libavutil/ tests doc | wc is 20
>
> Seems not too common and one malloc/copy of a string once per metadata entry
> which is once per file generally, seems a strange optimization to me
If anyone wants a testcase that shows dictionary speed issues, try to do
anything with this file:
https://samples.ffmpeg.org/nut/meta.nut
its a single image 256x256 jpeg with a lot of metadata
thx
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Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-04-08 10:19 Michael Niedermayer
2025-04-08 16:10 ` Romain Beauxis
2025-04-08 20:29 ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-04-08 22:18 ` Gerion Entrup
2025-04-08 22:35 ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-04-08 22:37 ` softworkz .
2025-04-08 16:56 ` softworkz .
2025-04-08 18:16 ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-04-08 18:36 ` softworkz .
2025-04-08 19:45 ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-04-08 21:30 ` softworkz .
2025-04-11 19:06 ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-04-12 1:41 ` softworkz .
2025-04-12 11:02 ` softworkz .
2025-04-09 0:00 ` Leo Izen
2025-04-09 16:56 ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-04-10 8:40 ` Nicolas George
2025-04-10 18:31 ` softworkz .
2025-04-11 20:50 ` Michael Niedermayer [this message]
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