[FFmpeg-devel] Hardware purchase request: Ryzen 9 CPU

[FFmpeg-devel] Hardware purchase request: Ryzen 9 CPU

[Niklas Haas]

Hi all,

My current workstation (first generation Zen) is getting rather old (8 years).
On top of being slow and power hungry, it is also not very representative
anymore of modern hardware.

Additionally, I would like to try and incorporate AVX-512 instructions for
my swscale rewrite, in particular for the pixel conversions.

The recently released Ryzen 9 series of workstation CPUs are looking very
attractive right now; In particular the 9950X3D, which appears at the top of
the timed compilation benchmarks.

As such, I am humbly requesting the purchase of this CPU, alongside a suitable
mainboard and RAM:

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/fFshGJ
The total price at time of posting would be 1364 EUR.

Thanks,
Niklas
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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Hardware purchase request: Ryzen 9 CPU

[Michael Niedermayer]

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Hi Niklas

On Fri, Apr 04, 2025 at 07:20:55PM +0200, Niklas Haas wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> My current workstation (first generation Zen) is getting rather old (8 years).
> On top of being slow and power hungry, it is also not very representative
> anymore of modern hardware.
> 
> Additionally, I would like to try and incorporate AVX-512 instructions for
> my swscale rewrite, in particular for the pixel conversions.
> 
> The recently released Ryzen 9 series of workstation CPUs are looking very
> attractive right now; In particular the 9950X3D, which appears at the top of
> the timed compilation benchmarks.
> 
> As such, I am humbly requesting the purchase of this CPU, alongside a suitable
> mainboard and RAM:
> 
> https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/fFshGJ
> The total price at time of posting would be 1364 EUR.

You can maybe safe 5-10€ by looking the items up here:
https://geizhals.de/amd-ryzen-9-9950x3d-100-100000719wof-a3381558.html
https://geizhals.de/gigabyte-x870e-aorus-elite-wifi7-x870e-a-elite-wifi7-a3286589.html

But if you prefer to avoid less well known sellers, thats ok and maybe safer in terms
of supply chain issues ...

either way, this LGTM from my point of view, I hope the tarif stuff our
politicans are breweing isnt going to affect prices

thx

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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Hardware purchase request: Ryzen 9 CPU

[softworkz .]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ffmpeg-devel <ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org> On Behalf Of Niklas
> Haas
> Sent: Freitag, 4. April 2025 19:21
> To: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org
> Subject: [FFmpeg-devel] Hardware purchase request: Ryzen 9 CPU
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> My current workstation (first generation Zen) is getting rather old (8
> years).
> On top of being slow and power hungry, it is also not very
> representative
> anymore of modern hardware.
> 
> Additionally, I would like to try and incorporate AVX-512 instructions
> for
> my swscale rewrite, in particular for the pixel conversions.
> 
> The recently released Ryzen 9 series of workstation CPUs are looking
> very
> attractive right now; In particular the 9950X3D, which appears at the
> top of
> the timed compilation benchmarks.
> 
> As such, I am humbly requesting the purchase of this CPU, alongside a
> suitable
> mainboard and RAM:
> 
> https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/fFshGJ
> The total price at time of posting would be 1364 EUR.
> 
> Thanks,
> Niklas
> _______________________________________________

Hi Niklas,

looks like good choices to me!

But wouldn't it be better to go for an all-new machine rather than upgrading an 8-year-old box?

Best,
sw
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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Hardware purchase request: Ryzen 9 CPU

[Niklas Haas]

On Fri, 04 Apr 2025 19:22:26 +0000 "softworkz ." <softworkz-at-hotmail.com@ffmpeg.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ffmpeg-devel <ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org> On Behalf Of Niklas
> > Haas
> > Sent: Freitag, 4. April 2025 19:21
> > To: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org
> > Subject: [FFmpeg-devel] Hardware purchase request: Ryzen 9 CPU
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > My current workstation (first generation Zen) is getting rather old (8
> > years).
> > On top of being slow and power hungry, it is also not very
> > representative
> > anymore of modern hardware.
> > 
> > Additionally, I would like to try and incorporate AVX-512 instructions
> > for
> > my swscale rewrite, in particular for the pixel conversions.
> > 
> > The recently released Ryzen 9 series of workstation CPUs are looking
> > very
> > attractive right now; In particular the 9950X3D, which appears at the
> > top of
> > the timed compilation benchmarks.
> > 
> > As such, I am humbly requesting the purchase of this CPU, alongside a
> > suitable
> > mainboard and RAM:
> > 
> > https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/fFshGJ
> > The total price at time of posting would be 1364 EUR.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Niklas
> > _______________________________________________
> 
> Hi Niklas,
> 
> looks like good choices to me!
> 
> But wouldn't it be better to go for an all-new machine rather than upgrading an 8-year-old box?

Hi Softworkz,

I have a much more recent GPU, PSU and SSDs. It's only the MB/CPU/RAM that are
8 years old, everything else has already been swapped out.

> 
> Best,
> sw
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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Hardware purchase request: Ryzen 9 CPU

[Lynne]

On 04/04/2025 19:20, Niklas Haas wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> My current workstation (first generation Zen) is getting rather old (8 years).
> On top of being slow and power hungry, it is also not very representative
> anymore of modern hardware.
> 
> Additionally, I would like to try and incorporate AVX-512 instructions for
> my swscale rewrite, in particular for the pixel conversions.
> 
> The recently released Ryzen 9 series of workstation CPUs are looking very
> attractive right now; In particular the 9950X3D, which appears at the top of
> the timed compilation benchmarks.
> 
> As such, I am humbly requesting the purchase of this CPU, alongside a suitable
> mainboard and RAM:
> 
> https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/fFshGJ
> The total price at time of posting would be 1364 EUR.

Sure, looks good to me.
I'd advise going for ECC RAM these days, if only because they don't have 
LEDs, but up to you.
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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Hardware purchase request: Ryzen 9 CPU

[Niklas Haas]

On Fri, 04 Apr 2025 22:41:39 +0200 Lynne <dev@lynne.ee> wrote:
> On 04/04/2025 19:20, Niklas Haas wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > My current workstation (first generation Zen) is getting rather old (8 years).
> > On top of being slow and power hungry, it is also not very representative
> > anymore of modern hardware.
> > 
> > Additionally, I would like to try and incorporate AVX-512 instructions for
> > my swscale rewrite, in particular for the pixel conversions.
> > 
> > The recently released Ryzen 9 series of workstation CPUs are looking very
> > attractive right now; In particular the 9950X3D, which appears at the top of
> > the timed compilation benchmarks.
> > 
> > As such, I am humbly requesting the purchase of this CPU, alongside a suitable
> > mainboard and RAM:
> > 
> > https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/fFshGJ
> > The total price at time of posting would be 1364 EUR.
> 
> Sure, looks good to me.
> I'd advise going for ECC RAM these days, if only because they don't have 
> LEDs, but up to you.

Afaict, no current X870-generation motherboard on the market support ECC,
or if they do, they cost significantly more. (As well as the RAM)

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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Hardware purchase request: Ryzen 9 CPU

[Neal Gompa]

On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 5:22 PM Niklas Haas <ffmpeg@haasn.xyz> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 04 Apr 2025 22:41:39 +0200 Lynne <dev@lynne.ee> wrote:
> > On 04/04/2025 19:20, Niklas Haas wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > My current workstation (first generation Zen) is getting rather old (8 years).
> > > On top of being slow and power hungry, it is also not very representative
> > > anymore of modern hardware.
> > >
> > > Additionally, I would like to try and incorporate AVX-512 instructions for
> > > my swscale rewrite, in particular for the pixel conversions.
> > >
> > > The recently released Ryzen 9 series of workstation CPUs are looking very
> > > attractive right now; In particular the 9950X3D, which appears at the top of
> > > the timed compilation benchmarks.
> > >
> > > As such, I am humbly requesting the purchase of this CPU, alongside a suitable
> > > mainboard and RAM:
> > >
> > > https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/fFshGJ
> > > The total price at time of posting would be 1364 EUR.
> >
> > Sure, looks good to me.
> > I'd advise going for ECC RAM these days, if only because they don't have
> > LEDs, but up to you.
>
> Afaict, no current X870-generation motherboard on the market support ECC,
> or if they do, they cost significantly more. (As well as the RAM)
>

The memory controller is part of the CPU, and all AMD Ryzen CPUs
support ECC memory as long as they physically fit in the slot. :)


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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Hardware purchase request: Ryzen 9 CPU

[Timo Rothenpieler]

On 20.04.2025 02:10, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 5:22 PM Niklas Haas <ffmpeg@haasn.xyz> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 04 Apr 2025 22:41:39 +0200 Lynne <dev@lynne.ee> wrote:
>>> On 04/04/2025 19:20, Niklas Haas wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> My current workstation (first generation Zen) is getting rather old (8 years).
>>>> On top of being slow and power hungry, it is also not very representative
>>>> anymore of modern hardware.
>>>>
>>>> Additionally, I would like to try and incorporate AVX-512 instructions for
>>>> my swscale rewrite, in particular for the pixel conversions.
>>>>
>>>> The recently released Ryzen 9 series of workstation CPUs are looking very
>>>> attractive right now; In particular the 9950X3D, which appears at the top of
>>>> the timed compilation benchmarks.
>>>>
>>>> As such, I am humbly requesting the purchase of this CPU, alongside a suitable
>>>> mainboard and RAM:
>>>>
>>>> https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/fFshGJ
>>>> The total price at time of posting would be 1364 EUR.
>>>
>>> Sure, looks good to me.
>>> I'd advise going for ECC RAM these days, if only because they don't have
>>> LEDs, but up to you.
>>
>> Afaict, no current X870-generation motherboard on the market support ECC,
>> or if they do, they cost significantly more. (As well as the RAM)
>>
> 
> The memory controller is part of the CPU, and all AMD Ryzen CPUs
> support ECC memory as long as they physically fit in the slot. :)

They support it in the sense that it'll work as RAM.
But without active mainboard support, there is no EDAC support, which is 
the whole point of ECC RAM.
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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Hardware purchase request: Ryzen 9 CPU

[Niklas Haas]

On Fri, 04 Apr 2025 19:20:55 +0200 Niklas Haas <ffmpeg@haasn.xyz> wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> My current workstation (first generation Zen) is getting rather old (8 years).
> On top of being slow and power hungry, it is also not very representative
> anymore of modern hardware.
> 
> Additionally, I would like to try and incorporate AVX-512 instructions for
> my swscale rewrite, in particular for the pixel conversions.
> 
> The recently released Ryzen 9 series of workstation CPUs are looking very
> attractive right now; In particular the 9950X3D, which appears at the top of
> the timed compilation benchmarks.
> 
> As such, I am humbly requesting the purchase of this CPU, alongside a suitable
> mainboard and RAM:
> 
> https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/fFshGJ
> The total price at time of posting would be 1364 EUR.

Note: While double-checking the compatibility, I noticed that the proposed
Motherboard has its PCI-Express lanes configured rather suboptimally for my
workstation.

I found instead the MSI MAG X870E TOMAHAWK WIFI, which costs roughly the same
as the Gigabyte board but supports running a PCIe x16 slot and two M.2 SSD slots
at full bandwidth, or alternatively splitting the bandwidth of one SSD with
the USB 40 Gbps port on the back.

(This is in contrast with the Gigabyte motherboard, which can only split the
bandwidth of SSDs with the PCIe slot, and instead always dedicates x4 lanes to
the less-useful rear USB-C port)

> 
> Thanks,
> Niklas
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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Hardware purchase request: Ryzen 9 CPU

[Niklas Haas]

On Fri, 04 Apr 2025 23:54:55 +0200 Niklas Haas <ffmpeg@haasn.xyz> wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Apr 2025 19:20:55 +0200 Niklas Haas <ffmpeg@haasn.xyz> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > My current workstation (first generation Zen) is getting rather old (8 years).
> > On top of being slow and power hungry, it is also not very representative
> > anymore of modern hardware.
> > 
> > Additionally, I would like to try and incorporate AVX-512 instructions for
> > my swscale rewrite, in particular for the pixel conversions.
> > 
> > The recently released Ryzen 9 series of workstation CPUs are looking very
> > attractive right now; In particular the 9950X3D, which appears at the top of
> > the timed compilation benchmarks.
> > 
> > As such, I am humbly requesting the purchase of this CPU, alongside a suitable
> > mainboard and RAM:
> > 
> > https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/fFshGJ
> > The total price at time of posting would be 1364 EUR.
> 
> Note: While double-checking the compatibility, I noticed that the proposed
> Motherboard has its PCI-Express lanes configured rather suboptimally for my
> workstation.
> 
> I found instead the MSI MAG X870E TOMAHAWK WIFI, which costs roughly the same
> as the Gigabyte board but supports running a PCIe x16 slot and two M.2 SSD slots
> at full bandwidth, or alternatively splitting the bandwidth of one SSD with
> the USB 40 Gbps port on the back.
> 
> (This is in contrast with the Gigabyte motherboard, which can only split the
> bandwidth of SSDs with the PCIe slot, and instead always dedicates x4 lanes to
> the less-useful rear USB-C port)

Will proceed with the purchase and send a separate refund request unless
there are any objections.

> 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Niklas
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