Re: [FFmpeg-devel] CC statement on alleged insults against the GSoC student et al

[Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc>]

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Hi Marth64

first, thanks for publically explaining the decission
this allows me to comment.

On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 09:35:09AM -0600, Marth64 wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> The FFmpeg Community Committee (CC) has received a complaint regarding
> alleged insults from Kieran against Yigithan and Michael.
> 
> After careful review, the CC did not find any recent comments from
> Kieran that would constitute an insult against either of the alleged
> targets. The CC did not even find any criticism of Yigithan from
> Kieran or anyone else. Kieran did negatively criticise Michael for


Lets first quote what was said:

Yiğithan Yiğit said:
> I want to give some feedback before GSoC’25 as GSoC’24 participant.
> I speak for myself but I know some of other colleagues are sharing
> similar thoughts with me.

> First of all community has incredible talented people and I am not
> even single percent of those people. However I tried my best during
> the qualification stage and after that. My main problem was finding
> answer's inside a huge codebase. I might come stupid ideas, bad
> implementations but to be honest when I asked about something in IRC
> I couldn’t get any answers, even in my volumedetect(qual patch)
> I couldn’t get a proper review from community.

This is a polite and honest critique, pointing at true problems in FFmpeg
people not reviewing patches, people not replying to students


Kierans reply later refered back to this:
> OMG a GSoC contributor is complaining about how hard the contribution

This reply is not appropriate from an FFmpeg developer to a gsoc contributor
who reported issues he found
Its disencouranging, its belitteling and it may even violate GSoC guildlines
or at least the vibe and spirit of GSoC

Also see:
https://google.github.io/gsocguides/mentor/best-practices

thx

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