From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 96ABD4DE42 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2025 17:17:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFF0B68EA2E; Tue, 4 Mar 2025 19:17:48 +0200 (EET) Received: from relay6-d.mail.gandi.net (relay6-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.198]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DD6C268BF20 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2025 19:17:42 +0200 (EET) Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EF940442AA for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2025 17:17:41 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=niedermayer.cc; s=gm1; t=1741108662; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=diegaOOhMTxJyRkl0d0L6KZxf+U/JpSlXCPjPv6NFSY=; b=gaAtGv17Ia9nhWGnd26qO9SNIzniQDHAk0M7Kv0e0PXg255yyWp8IK+P+Cj7I2C/vkhfEQ jyfXZHSLDAwLkveDu1PHy3Af2wDbZcF1g8bPaXDztxXn44dZ0AKbYakQe+5dnHxS2bEVfH JL+Ffno2h9R8fteUcIFNHsAi3ulkcny8kyAsb1M0/TTy0PZsWtYJukHntM2VlZDiHZ5ohj NKMb7bSSfibEAZX56UPJCVOtQB2PgcoUKKYXFHu2vbcFo+SIZFiwvlN3U+d58EHGkBcRO/ g2fZFflKoT7b5qiYyRhjkdY+imcHhKO64yvNTGoEu3HPXKifCtMKcBqsw+UGYg== Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2025 18:17:40 +0100 From: Michael Niedermayer To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Message-ID: <20250304171740.GN4991@pb2> References: <20250226015112.GC4991@pb2> <8c1d1b3f-8a76-42c2-9a18-9cc0cef5253d@betaapp.fastmail.com> <20250304023539.GK4991@pb2> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-GND-State: clean X-GND-Score: -85 X-GND-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeefvddrtddtgddutddviedvucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuifetpfffkfdpucggtfgfnhhsuhgsshgtrhhisggvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddunecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenfghrlhcuvffnffculdduhedmnecujfgurhepfffhvffukfhfgggtuggjsehgtderredttdejnecuhfhrohhmpefoihgthhgrvghlucfpihgvuggvrhhmrgihvghruceomhhitghhrggvlhesnhhivgguvghrmhgrhigvrhdrtggtqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeegjedtgeeuhfejieeluddufeeivdefveejgefhgffhleejveejudefjeekgeetleenucffohhmrghinhepshhovhgvrhgvihhgnhhtvggthhhfuhhnugdruggvnecukfhppeeguddrieeirdeijedruddufeenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepihhnvghtpeeguddrieeirdeijedruddufedphhgvlhhopehlohgtrghlhhhoshhtpdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepmhhitghhrggvlhesnhhivgguvghrmhgrhigvrhdrtggtpdhnsggprhgtphhtthhopedupdhrtghpthhtohepfhhfmhhpvghgqdguvghvvghlsehffhhmphgvghdrohhrgh X-GND-Sasl: michael@niedermayer.cc Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] =?utf-8?q?FFmpeg_Community_Committee_=E2=80=93_Up?= =?utf-8?q?dates_=26_Next_Steps?= X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2395395935371177107==" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --===============2395395935371177107== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="xwSnAJXZpPRcjHQt" Content-Disposition: inline --xwSnAJXZpPRcjHQt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Kieran On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 08:13:11AM -0600, Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel wr= ote: [...] > Hi Michael, >=20 > Was all the STF discussion around the first application done in public? No, jb contacted STF in the name of FFmpeg without any public discussion. This crossed STFs own reaching out to FFmpeg. Which is how it was noticed The mail below is from STF to jb. After that i immedeatly asked both thilo and jb to talk with each other. I also repeatedly asked for the STF stuff to be made public. I quote a rather sarcastic example from me (in german) asking thilo at the = end of this mail So again, we need more open communication, more forgiveness, more working together and less distrust, some virtual hugs and smiles =46rom: Tara Tarakiyee To: jb@X Cc: "Fiona Krakenb=C3=BCrger" , Abigail Garner Subject: Regarding Your STF Application Date: Tuesday, 30 May 2023 22:22 Dear Jean-Baptiste Kempf, Thank you for your application to the Sovereign Tech Fund. We appreciate th= e interest, but have a few questions about the timing of this application. = We have already reached out to ffmpeg maintainers through our scouting proc= ess and gotten a response and arranged a call. We explained how our funding= works and asked that they go back to the ffmpeg maintainer community and c= ome back to us with a joint proposal that is agreed upon by your existing g= overnance structure. Given the timing of your proposal, are we to infer that you knew about thos= e conversations yet choose to apply independently? We much prefer to have o= ne process ongoing at the time, so we ask that you refer back to that conve= rsation and include your work there and we will continue considering our su= pport for ffmpeg through our scouting. If that is not possible for some rea= son, please let us know. Please keep in mind that our mission at STF is to empower FOSS infrastructu= re, so we support activities to improve security and maintenance, but very = rarely support new feature development, except when there is a strong case = for them in the public interest. Also it is important for us that any suppo= rted work has the support of the maintainer community. Please let me know if you have any questions. Best wishes, Tara Tarakiyee Sovereign Tech Fund https://sovereigntechfund.de/ SPRIND GmbH BUNDESAGENTUR F=C3=9CR SPRUNGINNOVATIONEN Lagerhofstra=C3=9Fe 4 04103 Leipzig Gesch=C3=A4ftsf=C3=BChrung: Berit Dannenberg, Rafael Laguna de la Vera Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Dr.-Ing. E. h. Peter Leibinger Amtsgericht Leipzig =E2=80=93 HRB 36977 =E2=80=93 USt-ID DE328253854 Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2023 18:37:13 +0200 =46rom: Michael Niedermayer To: Thilo Borgmann Subject: Re: FFmpeg development support > Michael, er hat bereits versucht, das alles im Dunkeln abzuwickeln. Er ha= t bereits einen Antrag eingereicht, den er _nicht_ geteilt hat und auch auf= Nachfrage _nicht_ teilt. Nur dummerweise hat er uns von der Sache an sich = erz=C3=A4hlt und dummerweise, ist ihm das auf die F=C3=BC=C3=9Fe gefallen. > Es gibt einen Grund, warum er dar=C3=BCber auch immernoch nicht redet, Mi= chael. Warum denkst du, steht in seiner Mail nur "Habt ihr davon geh=C3=B6r= t?" ?... Thilo dein Antrag ist public auf der mailing liste (und wiki) ? nein? wenn nein dann was ist es dunkles was du planst ? 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