From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3890F4AB6C for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2025 19:27:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E424068DCB1; Fri, 28 Feb 2025 21:27:20 +0200 (EET) Received: from relay6-d.mail.gandi.net (relay6-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.198]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AED3E68DBFC for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2025 21:27:14 +0200 (EET) Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EE40642DFF for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2025 19:27:13 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=niedermayer.cc; s=gm1; t=1740770834; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=2+E4ORtb8OV/VzUh3o/p+x9mypZQJVwIVqjoJC1jHy4=; b=OVK4WIAlO3G2RiP6GIJF35Jso48tpU1mXDGzmgQdnM7P3Uetmv40MR6Z4K0crnixy5cm/F J37YI8Czwgjy3pCj6H+5jGrbFsFUfso4w23rvPKZ0GOHDPd6j1iBULj0rJ9gza8qphqgDl 2vPrOn6nR1+4DZ513bLSugWlscN92F5gjgVT0k22O4c9XAKJuGEsRUWBM9DaWj85KPeEc1 i5vlt4zYeWtSNGilzekwCOk94cZ1wNbc02Gw5isdw18VsnDLYp9o6A35UcmXWVl1grFsbm 4fk718ZBeZ217ncQnT671Jy0xr0cGVmHkcQQenkfVXem/pziGAMCTP/VlzKZuA== Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2025 20:27:12 +0100 From: Michael Niedermayer To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Message-ID: <20250228192712.GU4991@pb2> References: <20250226015112.GC4991@pb2> <8c1d1b3f-8a76-42c2-9a18-9cc0cef5253d@betaapp.fastmail.com> <20250227181808.GG4991@pb2> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-GND-State: clean X-GND-Score: -70 X-GND-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeefvddrtddtgdeluddvfecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfitefpfffkpdcuggftfghnshhusghstghrihgsvgenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedtudenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmnegfrhhlucfvnfffucdlfedtmdenucfjughrpeffhffvuffkfhggtggujgesghdtreertddtvdenucfhrhhomhepofhitghhrggvlhcupfhivgguvghrmhgrhigvrhcuoehmihgthhgrvghlsehnihgvuggvrhhmrgihvghrrdgttgeqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepieegkedtjeduffejhfetgeejtdegteetgfegtdfhjefgvefhteegkeejtddvhfevnecukfhppeeguddrieeirdeijedruddufeenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepihhnvghtpeeguddrieeirdeijedruddufedphhgvlhhopehlohgtrghlhhhoshhtpdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepmhhitghhrggvlhesnhhivgguvghrmhgrhigvrhdrtggtpdhnsggprhgtphhtthhopedupdhrtghpthhtohepfhhfmhhpvghgqdguvghvvghlsehffhhmphgvghdrohhrgh X-GND-Sasl: michael@niedermayer.cc Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] =?utf-8?q?FFmpeg_Community_Committee_=E2=80=93_Up?= =?utf-8?q?dates_=26_Next_Steps?= X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7314922507789623248==" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --===============7314922507789623248== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="k8mbklwpQXCrc+e0" Content-Disposition: inline --k8mbklwpQXCrc+e0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Marth64 On Thu, Feb 27, 2025 at 05:00:30PM -0600, Marth64 wrote: > Hi Michael, >=20 > Thanks for the reply & thoughts. >=20 > To clarify on "internal panel" and "structured issue resolution", this > is with regards to unresolved complaints sent to CC, such as publicly > or privately reported interpersonal/CoC issues. > Some high ticket items directed to the CC from last year remain > unaddressed and we were elected to be accountable for this, so we have > to move forward in some way. > There are tough problem statements to unpack and it is not always simple. The mandate of the CC is to "arbitrage and make decisions when inter-personal conflicts occur in the pr= oject. It will decide quickly and take actions, for the sake of the project= =2E" The CC has ignored the mobbing from 2 developers In fact it has blocked moderators from helping. (not even mentioning the wasted time, blocking of STF 2025, delays in security fixes, ...) that where conseuqences of that This went on for 2-3 months and one can easily write dozends of independant complaints. But given that some hostility came directly from a CC member. And the CC did little. Few complaints where actually submitted. So what is this all now about exactly ? It smells like some complaint will be used as pretext for the CC to extend its mandate. Something like "Theres a interpersonal conflict related to FFmpeg funds, now the CC can write an oppinon on funds" And a disagreement on funds isnt a interpersonal conflict in the first place Whatever the exact cases this is about, it will take time away =66rom FFmpeg development. Even if we just have to go over the past 4 months of debates and mails again and argue about it again I just dont understand what this is supposed to be good for thx [...] --=20 Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB The difference between a dictatorship and a democracy is that every 4 years the population together is allowed to provide 1 bit of input to the governm= ent. --k8mbklwpQXCrc+e0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABEKAB0WIQSf8hKLFH72cwut8TNhHseHBAsPqwUCZ8IODQAKCRBhHseHBAsP qw+aAJoDBfdvgIpjaSd8Zw5PolWTauNk/gCfQIZgZ7wVZ05bUoanBKUABiE86VM= =ZGsr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --k8mbklwpQXCrc+e0-- --===============7314922507789623248== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". --===============7314922507789623248==--