From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1B6D54CA12 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 2025 21:51:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30EC268CA14; Sun, 23 Feb 2025 23:51:53 +0200 (EET) Received: from relay6-d.mail.gandi.net (relay6-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.198]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6168068C45A for ; Sun, 23 Feb 2025 23:51:46 +0200 (EET) Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 958A9442E7 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 2025 21:51:45 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=niedermayer.cc; s=gm1; t=1740347505; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=IbL9KpT+0ObbRzEW+3K8rZTmfuvTWXhOpW6j48Us4nc=; b=LUsQ+rVIYatcf0HVPuqqXusN+8Rp/jUdiMJl88csYcPNyZEsFgWZ+Q0SveYLcfgFoIYe5V ck/xZazFFBl8ktDjoIQ6hv4aDkRCtV62FNuf+gkeTB+5S0Nakp/FZHYdL+iLjjRbV/d6Kj QAZtue9QOec/6mtoNP7gBA1Z4bIgWrwuB2o02voUGSyrknSROdQnajTmZtuFJxYA0p2vAH x2y9rytagYLEOKhdCZmSCkbvg03eVzOCp4Ys5v17bmpUBgALARTRqIkI4xYJ8CzDhX9Gti AhDBZa0bBqTvuK5R+6UgooBKug7Z9o2h/C4blfRSBx1+PKpQznGIdDvUR+oLAQ== Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2025 22:51:44 +0100 From: Michael Niedermayer To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Message-ID: <20250223215144.GS4991@pb2> References: <418474f4-5b38-4a44-822a-8e3c367e673c@gmail.com> <3335060.aeNJFYEL58@basile.remlab.net> <313bfd57b0e976df1845c160eeb60898baf6d0fb.camel@haerdin.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <313bfd57b0e976df1845c160eeb60898baf6d0fb.camel@haerdin.se> X-GND-State: clean X-GND-Score: -70 X-GND-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeefvddrtddtgdejieelkecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfitefpfffkpdcuggftfghnshhusghstghrihgsvgenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedtudenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmnegfrhhlucfvnfffucdlfedtmdenucfjughrpeffhffvuffkfhggtggujgesghdtreertddtudenucfhrhhomhepofhitghhrggvlhcupfhivgguvghrmhgrhigvrhcuoehmihgthhgrvghlsehnihgvuggvrhhmrgihvghrrdgttgeqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepudetvdfhudeuudegudefgfehhfevvdfggfffkefhvdfgvdetffdtjeekheetfeehnecukfhppeeguddrieeirdeijedruddufeenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepihhnvghtpeeguddrieeirdeijedruddufedphhgvlhhopehlohgtrghlhhhoshhtpdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepmhhitghhrggvlhesnhhivgguvghrmhgrhigvrhdrtggtpdhnsggprhgtphhtthhopedupdhrtghpthhtohepfhhfmhhpvghgqdguvghvvghlsehffhhmphgvghdrohhrgh X-GND-Sasl: michael@niedermayer.cc Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] I've written a filter in Rust X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6460655405677902570==" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --===============6460655405677902570== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/2NblyQ/uAnbTJA+" Content-Disposition: inline --/2NblyQ/uAnbTJA+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi On Sun, Feb 23, 2025 at 10:30:03PM +0100, Tomas H=E4rdin wrote: > l=F6r 2025-02-22 klockan 14:57 +0200 skrev R=E9mi Denis-Courmont: > > Le perjantaina 21. helmikuuta 2025, 20.02.16 UTC+2 Tomas H=E4rdin a =E9= crit : > > > The above said, I'm not against Rust. It has some nice properties. But > > > it does not seem very "stable" so far. Perhaps this has changed in > > > recent years.. > >=20 > > IME, it's become very usable for user-space code. Bare metal still pret= ty much=20 > > requires unstable features, but that's not a problem for FFmpeg. >=20 > I mean more in terms of ABI, and having to have cargo install specific > versions of the Rust compiler and so on. >=20 > > > If we're in the habit of allowing other languages I'd be in favor of > > > allowing C++, so that we can make use of the STL containers rather th= an > > > rolling our own. > >=20 > > Yikes. Rust is actually way saner for type-generic programming than C++. >=20 > No doubt, but STL is still miles better than rolling our own > containers. >=20 > Anyway, rather than shoehorning Rust into this codebase it might make > more sense to contribute to NihAV instead. But only if it has a sane > parsing framework That misses the point. FFmpeg should support a "safer" language than C because for some modules its the better choice. The same way linux benefits from rust. Similarly putting rust code in a different project than linux doesnt help linux. thx [...] --=20 Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB No great genius has ever existed without some touch of madness. -- Aristotle --/2NblyQ/uAnbTJA+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABEKAB0WIQSf8hKLFH72cwut8TNhHseHBAsPqwUCZ7uYbQAKCRBhHseHBAsP q4JTAJ4rD3emHHCaFCU9R2tEFedZWTJB0QCdHVToGJFWjugf0gr5d3hZKlgcxYI= =FF3h -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --/2NblyQ/uAnbTJA+-- --===============6460655405677902570== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". --===============6460655405677902570==--