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From: Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] I've written a filter in Rust
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2025 22:51:44 +0100
Message-ID: <20250223215144.GS4991@pb2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <313bfd57b0e976df1845c160eeb60898baf6d0fb.camel@haerdin.se>


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Hi

On Sun, Feb 23, 2025 at 10:30:03PM +0100, Tomas Härdin wrote:
> lör 2025-02-22 klockan 14:57 +0200 skrev Rémi Denis-Courmont:
> > Le perjantaina 21. helmikuuta 2025, 20.02.16 UTC+2 Tomas Härdin a écrit :
> > > The above said, I'm not against Rust. It has some nice properties. But
> > > it does not seem very "stable" so far. Perhaps this has changed in
> > > recent years..
> > 
> > IME, it's become very usable for user-space code. Bare metal still pretty much 
> > requires unstable features, but that's not a problem for FFmpeg.
> 
> I mean more in terms of ABI, and having to have cargo install specific
> versions of the Rust compiler and so on.
> 
> > > If we're in the habit of allowing other languages I'd be in favor of
> > > allowing C++, so that we can make use of the STL containers rather than
> > > rolling our own.
> > 
> > Yikes. Rust is actually way saner for type-generic programming than C++.
> 
> No doubt, but STL is still miles better than rolling our own
> containers.
> 

> Anyway, rather than shoehorning Rust into this codebase it might make
> more sense to contribute to NihAV instead. But only if it has a sane
> parsing framework

That misses the point. FFmpeg should support a "safer" language than C
because for some modules its the better choice.

The same way linux benefits from rust. Similarly putting rust code
in a different project than linux doesnt help linux.

thx

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-23 21:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-20 13:06 Leandro Santiago
2025-02-20 16:20 ` Leandro Santiago
2025-02-20 22:49 ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-02-21  7:56   ` Leandro Santiago
2025-02-21  9:01   ` Tomas Härdin
2025-02-21  9:21     ` Soft Works
2025-02-21 13:21     ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-02-21 14:30       ` Soft Works
2025-02-21 14:53         ` Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel
2025-02-21 15:02           ` Soft Works
2025-02-21 19:27             ` Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel
2025-02-21 20:10               ` Soft Works
2025-02-26 13:50                 ` Tomas Härdin
2025-02-26 14:18                   ` Zhao Zhili
2025-02-26 15:32                     ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2025-02-26 16:03                       ` Zhao Zhili
2025-02-26 16:25                         ` martin schitter
2025-02-26 14:07                 ` Nicolas George
2025-02-26 16:35                   ` Soft Works
2025-02-21 16:39           ` Stephen Hutchinson
2025-02-26 14:25         ` Vittorio Giovara
2025-02-21 13:18 ` Lynne
2025-02-21 13:44   ` Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel
2025-02-21 18:02   ` Tomas Härdin
2025-02-22 12:57     ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2025-02-23 21:30       ` Tomas Härdin
2025-02-23 21:51         ` Michael Niedermayer [this message]
2025-02-26 14:11           ` Tomas Härdin
2025-02-24 14:51         ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2025-02-26 14:34           ` Tomas Härdin
2025-02-26 15:13           ` Leandro Santiago
2025-02-22 12:49   ` Rémi Denis-Courmont

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