[FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] Experiment: enable github pull requests

[FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] Experiment: enable github pull requests

[Michael Niedermayer]

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Hi all

I propose, that we enable github pull requests

github is the most widely used development platform and has the lowest barrier
of entry.

after ~1-3 Month, we then evaluate how many new developers this attracted,
how many new contributions it attracted.
What the ratios of reviewed vs ignored vs applied vs rejected patches are compared to the ML

This information should help the community make decissions about the use of
web based git development vs the mailing list.

Thx

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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] Experiment: enable github pull requests

[Lynne]

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On 12/02/2025 19:06, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> I propose, that we enable github pull requests
> 
> github is the most widely used development platform and has the lowest barrier
> of entry.
> 
> after ~1-3 Month, we then evaluate how many new developers this attracted,
> how many new contributions it attracted.
> What the ratios of reviewed vs ignored vs applied vs rejected patches are compared to the ML

Those are rather arbitrary statistics.

> This information should help the community make decissions about the use of
> web based git development vs the mailing list.

Every one of us is already familiar with the benefits of having a platform.
This is just slowing down and delaying what we ought to do, which is to 
switch as soon as possible.
Finally, without CI, it doesn't really show the potential.

We all know that github will not be the platform we move to, so instead 
of getting used to a temporary workflow, I'd rather we test a likely 
final workflow that we could potentially be using.

Instead of github, I want to use the current test Forgejo instance. It 
already has CI working and over 10 developers have registered.
Some have doubts about whether it would slow down with more users, or 
bugs would appear, and it would be good to demonstrate the platform can 
handle our workflow, and fix any remaining issues.

Users can already login to the instance with their github accounts, so 
there's no barrier to entry.

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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] Experiment: enable github pull requests

[Romain Beauxis]

Le mer. 12 févr. 2025 à 12:49, Lynne <dev@lynne.ee> a écrit :
>
> On 12/02/2025 19:06, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > Hi all

Hi!

>
> > I propose, that we enable github pull requests
> >
> > github is the most widely used development platform and has the lowest barrier
> > of entry.
> >
> > after ~1-3 Month, we then evaluate how many new developers this attracted,
> > how many new contributions it attracted.
> > What the ratios of reviewed vs ignored vs applied vs rejected patches are compared to the ML
>
> Those are rather arbitrary statistics.
>
> > This information should help the community make decissions about the use of
> > web based git development vs the mailing list.
>
> Every one of us is already familiar with the benefits of having a platform.
> This is just slowing down and delaying what we ought to do, which is to
> switch as soon as possible.
> Finally, without CI, it doesn't really show the potential.
>
> We all know that github will not be the platform we move to, so instead
> of getting used to a temporary workflow, I'd rather we test a likely
> final workflow that we could potentially be using.
>
> Instead of github, I want to use the current test Forgejo instance. It
> already has CI working and over 10 developers have registered.
> Some have doubts about whether it would slow down with more users, or
> bugs would appear, and it would be good to demonstrate the platform can
> handle our workflow, and fix any remaining issues.
>
> Users can already login to the instance with their github accounts, so
> there's no barrier to entry.

Would you mind sharing the url? A quick search didn't reveal anything.

Thanks,
-- Romain
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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] Experiment: enable github pull requests

[Lynne]

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On 12/02/2025 19:53, Romain Beauxis wrote:
> Le mer. 12 févr. 2025 à 12:49, Lynne <dev@lynne.ee> a écrit :
>>
>> On 12/02/2025 19:06, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
>>> Hi all
> 
> Hi!
> 
>>
>>> I propose, that we enable github pull requests
>>>
>>> github is the most widely used development platform and has the lowest barrier
>>> of entry.
>>>
>>> after ~1-3 Month, we then evaluate how many new developers this attracted,
>>> how many new contributions it attracted.
>>> What the ratios of reviewed vs ignored vs applied vs rejected patches are compared to the ML
>>
>> Those are rather arbitrary statistics.
>>
>>> This information should help the community make decissions about the use of
>>> web based git development vs the mailing list.
>>
>> Every one of us is already familiar with the benefits of having a platform.
>> This is just slowing down and delaying what we ought to do, which is to
>> switch as soon as possible.
>> Finally, without CI, it doesn't really show the potential.
>>
>> We all know that github will not be the platform we move to, so instead
>> of getting used to a temporary workflow, I'd rather we test a likely
>> final workflow that we could potentially be using.
>>
>> Instead of github, I want to use the current test Forgejo instance. It
>> already has CI working and over 10 developers have registered.
>> Some have doubts about whether it would slow down with more users, or
>> bugs would appear, and it would be good to demonstrate the platform can
>> handle our workflow, and fix any remaining issues.
>>
>> Users can already login to the instance with their github accounts, so
>> there's no barrier to entry.
> 
> Would you mind sharing the url? A quick search didn't reveal anything.

Sure
https://code.ffmpeg.org/

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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] Experiment: enable github pull requests

[Michael Niedermayer]

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On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 07:49:20PM +0100, Lynne wrote:
> On 12/02/2025 19:06, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > Hi all
> > 
> > I propose, that we enable github pull requests
> > 
> > github is the most widely used development platform and has the lowest barrier
> > of entry.
> > 
> > after ~1-3 Month, we then evaluate how many new developers this attracted,
> > how many new contributions it attracted.
> > What the ratios of reviewed vs ignored vs applied vs rejected patches are compared to the ML
> 
> Those are rather arbitrary statistics.

Some people claimed these statistics would improve. I do think we should
compare some statistics (obviously not limited to these)


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> Users can already login to the instance with their github accounts, so
> there's no barrier to entry.

Thats cool, then forgejo is probably better for this experiment (if we do it)

thx


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