From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org> Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C34B4BCA0 for <ffmpegdev@gitmailbox.com>; Sun, 2 Feb 2025 11:34:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D15D68C23D; Sun, 2 Feb 2025 13:34:55 +0200 (EET) Received: from relay8-d.mail.gandi.net (relay8-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.201]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C255368C009 for <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>; Sun, 2 Feb 2025 13:34:48 +0200 (EET) Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1451243447 for <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>; Sun, 2 Feb 2025 11:34:47 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=niedermayer.cc; s=gm1; t=1738496088; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=NajAb9bKY8cd8aGcRZL9h9yBugXABRxJti7KOhN91Dc=; b=j6cxhxPaLNlALttwTUS1zlR25xVwI/Bnlr1zXPMGuxn+fxURCC6JjkqQjrCgmKZVnrY0g7 rs3Rkw3m7KUZn55ual1JIdNbcMppt1zhn76Bi+jl+TxJZjhqaa885QXN2RAR/6n9n3j+Es 0J40zn/PMRMGXWckaT2h2bLhoyQMkSLRrwJb4xDzZXd+WPgTGMdzYeOPcS2XG9sPhKy644 VToxOE4Arn4m50k2GiYZ+ad3BW1vpBpVIFrWi+eq6Q9RX69usUoFGX8srvxVYL2oEPUD45 sCOuAeqK7UTVVtO13N2Zf3lljy7hzIaReBDxXocIW82Bxq5wuUzmEtTGEdJ24w== Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2025 12:34:47 +0100 From: Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc> To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> Message-ID: <20250202113447.GY4991@pb2> References: <20250129203321.GB4991@pb2> <20250130004313.GB17613@haasn.xyz> <Z5zk-DFzE0N3SMSD@phare.normalesup.org> <9dacff42-0536-4736-922b-0d791d63ef61@gmail.com> <20250201004948.GH4991@pb2> <tencent_362750B89F16074D632061CDFCCF9CD54907@qq.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <tencent_362750B89F16074D632061CDFCCF9CD54907@qq.com> X-GND-State: clean X-GND-Score: -85 X-GND-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeefvddrtddtgddugeehjecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfitefpfffkpdcuggftfghnshhusghstghrihgsvgenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedtudenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmnegfrhhlucfvnfffucdludehmdenucfjughrpeffhffvuffkfhggtggujgesghdtreertddtvdenucfhrhhomhepofhitghhrggvlhcupfhivgguvghrmhgrhigvrhcuoehmihgthhgrvghlsehnihgvuggvrhhmrgihvghrrdgttgeqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepffeltdefveefffehueeuhfdtjeeileeufedtiedtgfehteegffeffeetkefftdfhnecuffhomhgrihhnpehffhhmphgvghdrohhrghenucfkphepgedurdeiiedrieejrdduudefnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehinhgvthepgedurdeiiedrieejrdduudefpdhhvghloheplhhotggrlhhhohhsthdpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehmihgthhgrvghlsehnihgvuggvrhhmrgihvghrrdgttgdpnhgspghrtghpthhtohepuddprhgtphhtthhopehffhhmphgvghdquggvvhgvlhesfhhfmhhpvghgrdhorhhg X-GND-Sasl: michael@niedermayer.cc Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Democratization work in progress draft v2 X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel.ffmpeg.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/options/ffmpeg-devel>, <mailto:ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel> List-Post: <mailto:ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> List-Help: <mailto:ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel>, <mailto:ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org?subject=subscribe> Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7552748567018257260==" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" <ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org> Archived-At: <https://master.gitmailbox.com/ffmpegdev/20250202113447.GY4991@pb2/> List-Archive: <https://master.gitmailbox.com/ffmpegdev/> List-Post: <mailto:ffmpegdev@gitmailbox.com> --===============7552748567018257260== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Vp6V3Lj0Uv1hO7pH" Content-Disposition: inline --Vp6V3Lj0Uv1hO7pH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi On Sat, Feb 01, 2025 at 02:45:26PM +0800, Zhao Zhili wrote: >=20 >=20 > > On Feb 1, 2025, at 08:49, Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc> = wrote: > >=20 > > Hi James > >=20 > > On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 12:44:50PM -0300, James Almer wrote: > >> On 1/31/2025 11:58 AM, Nicolas George wrote: > >>> Niklas Haas (12025-01-30): > > [...] > >>> On the other hand, I believe this whole plan is a bad idea. > >> Yes, it is a bad idea. We have had the current system in place for abo= ut > >> five years now, and besides one or two CC assemblages being inefficien= t, it > >=20 > > Do you remember this suggested addition to the FAQ ? > > https://lists.ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2025-January/338186.html > >=20 >=20 > The proposal treat every GA member as suspect, and GA members with daily = jobs guilty. The text i proposed for the FAQ was intended to raise the issue with an hum= ours tone and wasnt meant to be taken litteral. >=20 > The community should be based on trust and everyone should be trust equal= ly, unless > he/she did something not worth the trust. The 20 patches threshold for GA= is a prove > of basic understanding of the project and the willingness to participate,= not means > someone with more patches has more weight when vote on community activiti= es. yes but its not so simple Open source projects have increasingly become the target for supply chain a= ttacks. In some cases multiple people over year long periods have participated in s= uch attacks If we look at governance in democratic countries. Vote buying has repeatly = happened. If we look at governance in crypto. hundreds of millions where stolen throu= gh governance attacks. (you can find examples for above by asking chatgpt or a search engine) FFmpeg is used by billions of people indirectly, we are not a small unimpor= tant project that noone cares about. I think, its dangerous for us to say, "it will not happen to us" its safer to make the system more robust thx [...] --=20 Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB Some Animals are More Equal Than Others. - George Orwell's book Animal Farm --Vp6V3Lj0Uv1hO7pH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABEKAB0WIQSf8hKLFH72cwut8TNhHseHBAsPqwUCZ59YUAAKCRBhHseHBAsP q/gQAJ0bCvWVMf7RTuOA2lKCXNErVKzGRACdFoB7fnXKd9VMrh1vAlBBeofJ8Fc= =mzuP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Vp6V3Lj0Uv1hO7pH-- --===============7552748567018257260== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". --===============7552748567018257260==--