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From: Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Democratization work in progress draft v2
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2025 12:34:47 +0100
Message-ID: <20250202113447.GY4991@pb2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <tencent_362750B89F16074D632061CDFCCF9CD54907@qq.com>


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Hi

On Sat, Feb 01, 2025 at 02:45:26PM +0800, Zhao Zhili wrote:
> 
> 
> > On Feb 1, 2025, at 08:49, Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi James
> > 
> > On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 12:44:50PM -0300, James Almer wrote:
> >> On 1/31/2025 11:58 AM, Nicolas George wrote:
> >>> Niklas Haas (12025-01-30):
> > [...]
> >>> On the other hand, I believe this whole plan is a bad idea.
> >> Yes, it is a bad idea. We have had the current system in place for about
> >> five years now, and besides one or two CC assemblages being inefficient, it
> > 
> > Do you remember this suggested addition to the FAQ ?
> > https://lists.ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2025-January/338186.html
> > 
> 
> The proposal treat every GA member as suspect, and GA members with daily jobs guilty.

The text i proposed for the FAQ was intended to raise the issue with an humours tone
and wasnt meant to be taken litteral.


> 
> The community should be based on trust and everyone should be trust equally, unless
> he/she did something not worth the trust. The 20 patches threshold for GA is a prove
> of basic understanding of the project and the willingness to participate, not means
> someone with more patches has more weight when vote on community activities.

yes but its not so simple

Open source projects have increasingly become the target for supply chain attacks.
In some cases multiple people over year long periods have participated in such attacks

If we look at governance in democratic countries. Vote buying has repeatly happened.

If we look at governance in crypto. hundreds of millions where stolen through
governance attacks.

(you can find examples for above by asking chatgpt or a search engine)

FFmpeg is used by billions of people indirectly, we are not a small unimportant
project that noone cares about.

I think, its dangerous for us to say, "it will not happen to us"
its safer to make the system more robust

thx

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Michael     GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB

Some Animals are More Equal Than Others. - George Orwell's book Animal Farm

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-02-02 11:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-29 20:33 Michael Niedermayer
2025-01-29 21:39 ` Leo Izen
2025-01-29 21:47   ` Nicolas George
2025-01-29 21:48   ` Soft Works
2025-01-30  6:38     ` Vittorio Giovara
2025-01-29 23:43 ` Niklas Haas
2025-01-30 18:04   ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-01-31 14:36     ` Nicolas George
2025-01-31 14:58   ` Nicolas George
2025-01-31 15:44     ` James Almer
2025-01-31 16:01       ` Soft Works
2025-02-02  2:25         ` Leo Izen
2025-02-02  3:37           ` Soft Works
2025-02-02  7:29           ` Vittorio Giovara
2025-02-01  0:49       ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-02-01  6:45         ` Zhao Zhili
2025-02-01 13:21           ` Ronald S. Bultje
2025-02-01 14:30             ` Vittorio Giovara
2025-02-01 14:11           ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2025-02-01 14:31             ` Vittorio Giovara
2025-02-02 11:34           ` Michael Niedermayer [this message]
2025-02-01 13:30         ` James Almer
2025-02-01 21:53           ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-02-02 18:14             ` James Almer
2025-02-03 18:08               ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-02-03 18:16                 ` Vittorio Giovara
2025-02-03 19:14               ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-02-03 20:45                 ` Nicolas George
2025-02-03  2:29             ` Ronald S. Bultje
2025-02-01 22:27           ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-02-01 22:29             ` Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel
2025-02-02 21:35             ` James Almer
2025-01-30  6:41 ` Vittorio Giovara
2025-02-01 20:44 ` Nicolas George
2025-02-02  0:01   ` Michael Niedermayer

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