From: Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Democratization work in progress draft v2
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2025 01:01:51 +0100
Message-ID: <20250202000151.GW4991@pb2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z56HwkT2inTBUWqN@phare.normalesup.org>
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Hi Nicolas
On Sat, Feb 01, 2025 at 09:44:50PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote:
> Michael Niedermayer (12025-01-29):
> > Hi all
> >
> > Heres my current "work in progress": (sending that before fosdem, so people can discuss if they like)
>
> Counter-proposal:
>
> By any sane measure of merit towards the project you would get more
> votes than anybody else, that makes no sense. So, instead, you get 0
> vote because you do not take part in the votes, you organize them.
>
> You are officially the leader of the project, and as such the arbiter of
> consensus among the community. You hold that role preferably by judging
> the arguments, or more frequently by delegating that task to
> maintainers, but if the arguments fail to convince, you can decide to
> hold a vote.
>
> You decide on the voting body and the weight of each voter according to
> the merit criteria of your choice. You do not make them public so as not
> to trigger Goodhart's law. You should experiment with variations on the
> criteria and see if they lead to a significant difference in result, and
> see which variation most match your subjective assessment of people's
> merit.
>
> The votes are public. Mandatory secrecy is not possible with online
> votes and voluntary secrecy is not important in this case.
>
> People have to trust you about the results. If they do not trust the
> leader, they can work on something else.
>
> You are free to delegate any of these tasks in order to be able to focus
> on more interesting things.
>
> Peace on the mailing-list is also your duty as leader and arbiter of the
> consensus among the community. You should delegate that duty to a team
> of trusted moderators, same as maintainers. You can seek consensus to
> choose them, using a vote if necessary.
This is an interresting proposal.
thx
[...]
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Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-01-29 20:33 Michael Niedermayer
2025-01-29 21:39 ` Leo Izen
2025-01-29 21:47 ` Nicolas George
2025-01-29 21:48 ` Soft Works
2025-01-30 6:38 ` Vittorio Giovara
2025-01-29 23:43 ` Niklas Haas
2025-01-30 18:04 ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-01-31 14:36 ` Nicolas George
2025-01-31 14:58 ` Nicolas George
2025-01-31 15:44 ` James Almer
2025-01-31 16:01 ` Soft Works
2025-02-02 2:25 ` Leo Izen
2025-02-02 3:37 ` Soft Works
2025-02-02 7:29 ` Vittorio Giovara
2025-02-01 0:49 ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-02-01 6:45 ` Zhao Zhili
2025-02-01 13:21 ` Ronald S. Bultje
2025-02-01 14:30 ` Vittorio Giovara
2025-02-01 14:11 ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2025-02-01 14:31 ` Vittorio Giovara
2025-02-02 11:34 ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-02-01 13:30 ` James Almer
2025-02-01 21:53 ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-02-02 18:14 ` James Almer
2025-02-03 18:08 ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-02-03 18:16 ` Vittorio Giovara
2025-02-03 19:14 ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-02-03 20:45 ` Nicolas George
2025-02-03 2:29 ` Ronald S. Bultje
2025-02-01 22:27 ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-02-01 22:29 ` Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel
2025-02-02 21:35 ` James Almer
2025-01-30 6:41 ` Vittorio Giovara
2025-02-01 20:44 ` Nicolas George
2025-02-02 0:01 ` Michael Niedermayer [this message]
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