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From: Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Democratization work in progress draft v2
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2025 01:01:51 +0100
Message-ID: <20250202000151.GW4991@pb2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z56HwkT2inTBUWqN@phare.normalesup.org>


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Hi Nicolas

On Sat, Feb 01, 2025 at 09:44:50PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote:
> Michael Niedermayer (12025-01-29):
> > Hi all
> > 
> > Heres my current "work in progress": (sending that before fosdem, so people can discuss if they like)
> 
> Counter-proposal:
> 
> By any sane measure of merit towards the project you would get more
> votes than anybody else, that makes no sense. So, instead, you get 0
> vote because you do not take part in the votes, you organize them.
> 
> You are officially the leader of the project, and as such the arbiter of
> consensus among the community. You hold that role preferably by judging
> the arguments, or more frequently by delegating that task to
> maintainers, but if the arguments fail to convince, you can decide to
> hold a vote.
> 
> You decide on the voting body and the weight of each voter according to
> the merit criteria of your choice. You do not make them public so as not
> to trigger Goodhart's law. You should experiment with variations on the
> criteria and see if they lead to a significant difference in result, and
> see which variation most match your subjective assessment of people's
> merit.
> 
> The votes are public. Mandatory secrecy is not possible with online
> votes and voluntary secrecy is not important in this case.
> 
> People have to trust you about the results. If they do not trust the
> leader, they can work on something else.
> 
> You are free to delegate any of these tasks in order to be able to focus
> on more interesting things.
> 
> Peace on the mailing-list is also your duty as leader and arbiter of the
> consensus among the community. You should delegate that duty to a team
> of trusted moderators, same as maintainers. You can seek consensus to
> choose them, using a vote if necessary.

This is an interresting proposal.

thx

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      reply	other threads:[~2025-02-02  0:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-29 20:33 Michael Niedermayer
2025-01-29 21:39 ` Leo Izen
2025-01-29 21:47   ` Nicolas George
2025-01-29 21:48   ` Soft Works
2025-01-30  6:38     ` Vittorio Giovara
2025-01-29 23:43 ` Niklas Haas
2025-01-30 18:04   ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-01-31 14:36     ` Nicolas George
2025-01-31 14:58   ` Nicolas George
2025-01-31 15:44     ` James Almer
2025-01-31 16:01       ` Soft Works
2025-02-02  2:25         ` Leo Izen
2025-02-02  3:37           ` Soft Works
2025-02-02  7:29           ` Vittorio Giovara
2025-02-01  0:49       ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-02-01  6:45         ` Zhao Zhili
2025-02-01 13:21           ` Ronald S. Bultje
2025-02-01 14:30             ` Vittorio Giovara
2025-02-01 14:11           ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2025-02-01 14:31             ` Vittorio Giovara
2025-02-02 11:34           ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-02-01 13:30         ` James Almer
2025-02-01 21:53           ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-02-02 18:14             ` James Almer
2025-02-03 18:08               ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-02-03 18:16                 ` Vittorio Giovara
2025-02-03 19:14               ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-02-03 20:45                 ` Nicolas George
2025-02-03  2:29             ` Ronald S. Bultje
2025-02-01 22:27           ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-02-01 22:29             ` Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel
2025-02-02 21:35             ` James Almer
2025-01-30  6:41 ` Vittorio Giovara
2025-02-01 20:44 ` Nicolas George
2025-02-02  0:01   ` Michael Niedermayer [this message]

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