From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 323F84BC2C for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2025 22:27:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7F6E68C033; Sun, 2 Feb 2025 00:27:12 +0200 (EET) Received: from relay1-d.mail.gandi.net (relay1-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.193]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D29B968C026 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 2025 00:27:05 +0200 (EET) Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A731142E76 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2025 22:27:04 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=niedermayer.cc; s=gm1; t=1738448824; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=vQCdZcLIh/dgUQUJHyxzTTrGZzmc0AeYBD5mosYh5lQ=; b=bXzdlIcAvc3BGh8Gn9caKFP2q6EMTAMEBiIyRQel2WXry8YqkmUK6E77OPboFkUGF3BQBY PPhGaQdzKSaQ513KD4iyulv/D2EiErIL371YdbH8Oly0CJaE2/wwIZFp+V27QINOCD9aig LeurvAbXgRgpEnjNOiKbE1xEkUXKex7GHrJ5xfnSLjvxc5vyOKNUzMuc5CbowC/NIgS6U/ s6o05fggyM8RxGxCmoH9NOO0WOdp2HzK8KC9GUqFYvqVGtAPUUmq4LwtUsm+54aMgFj2ej gyQA78qqEu3geji9Ujxdgxt+OLs6A98A40VzaHQVEMsGqj3kIL/hpIfhSfdajA== Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2025 23:27:03 +0100 From: Michael Niedermayer To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Message-ID: <20250201222703.GU4991@pb2> References: <20250129203321.GB4991@pb2> <20250130004313.GB17613@haasn.xyz> <9dacff42-0536-4736-922b-0d791d63ef61@gmail.com> <20250201004948.GH4991@pb2> <64fdd98f-23ed-45ca-943e-011f223d20f9@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <64fdd98f-23ed-45ca-943e-011f223d20f9@gmail.com> X-GND-State: clean X-GND-Score: -70 X-GND-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeefvddrtddtgdduvdelfecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfitefpfffkpdcuggftfghnshhusghstghrihgsvgenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedtudenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmnegfrhhlucfvnfffucdlfedtmdenucfjughrpeffhffvuffkfhggtggujgesghdtreertddtvdenucfhrhhomhepofhitghhrggvlhcupfhivgguvghrmhgrhigvrhcuoehmihgthhgrvghlsehnihgvuggvrhhmrgihvghrrdgttgeqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepieegkedtjeduffejhfetgeejtdegteetgfegtdfhjefgvefhteegkeejtddvhfevnecukfhppeeguddrieeirdeijedruddufeenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepihhnvghtpeeguddrieeirdeijedruddufedphhgvlhhopehlohgtrghlhhhoshhtpdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepmhhitghhrggvlhesnhhivgguvghrmhgrhigvrhdrtggtpdhnsggprhgtphhtthhopedupdhrtghpthhtohepfhhfmhhpvghgqdguvghvvghlsehffhhmphgvghdrohhrgh X-GND-Sasl: michael@niedermayer.cc Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Democratization work in progress draft v2 X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2927263044293406261==" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --===============2927263044293406261== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZJKVxCKn7+TkDRzT" Content-Disposition: inline --ZJKVxCKn7+TkDRzT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi James On Sat, Feb 01, 2025 at 10:30:21AM -0300, James Almer wrote: > On 1/31/2025 9:49 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: [...] > > > >=20 > > > has worked. Changing it now because one person was unhappy with a CC = (That > >=20 > > This is a false statement. Iam not suggesting a change to the GA becaus= e of one CC > > iam suggesting a change because it is vulnerable to an attack. > >=20 > > (The CC isnt even fixed by this, i think the concept of a CC elected ou= t of a > > community thats full of mutual hate is a bad idea) > >=20 > > But back to the topic, what do you suggest to fix the vulerability in t= he GA ? > > Or you dont care? >=20 > Why do you say there's a vulnerability in the GA? The FAQ describes how to exploit it. And i belive others independantly found this issue as well. > Has it been exploited for Given the nature of this vulerability, its very hard to detect it being exp= loited > this to be an issue? While active eploitation, certainly makes an issue worse. In general and especially when exploitation is not detectable, this is something we cannot= wait for > Did someone to your knowledge buy a developer to write > 20 commits and get them into the GA? Lets be carefull here with the words. But the awnser is "yes" Many developers have been paid to write commits. employees, contractors, st= udents Do i know of someone being asked after that to vote in a specific way ? No, how could i know other peoples private communication Have people asked me how/if they should vote ? Yes, some people did ask. In general "few time" outside contributors being payed to do some work dont care about the votes, they come, do some work and leave. I would expect the random subscriber of 2000 on ffmpeg-devel to care more as they follow the list for a long term they care more about the consequenc= es > Otherwise, you're making a big deal out > of an hypothetical, and that's really damaging to the project. >=20 > I don't know if you realize, but you're being incredibly disrespectful wi= th > almost everyone who has contributed anything in the last decade, treating > them as moles trying to bring down the project instead of contributing to > its success. I would appreciate if you keep this emotional drama out. We need to look with a clear head at this. Noone is disrespectful to people using ssh if ssh is vulnerable. thx [...] --=20 Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB Into a blind darkness they enter who follow after the Ignorance, they as if into a greater darkness enter who devote themselves to the Knowledge alone. -- Isha Upanishad --ZJKVxCKn7+TkDRzT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABEKAB0WIQSf8hKLFH72cwut8TNhHseHBAsPqwUCZ56ftAAKCRBhHseHBAsP q/CyAJ9G9sBFa/UHrHeJO+5VgW6WXh5HkACfcSFIIdNiU6bbsSEpSuUaHaT1w98= =kZsa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZJKVxCKn7+TkDRzT-- --===============2927263044293406261== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". --===============2927263044293406261==--