From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 77A194BC25 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2025 21:53:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8087F68C03D; Sat, 1 Feb 2025 23:53:34 +0200 (EET) Received: from relay9-d.mail.gandi.net (relay9-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.199]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C713868BEF1 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2025 23:53:27 +0200 (EET) Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1C46544305 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2025 21:53:26 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=niedermayer.cc; s=gm1; t=1738446807; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=n0Y2dIFrpEAYoXUp1UhCCvNWFs3MOWnaUYaLY5FnCm4=; b=K53kgBj+y2VEsMrAHx/kq8OhJIw2EBNahjSZvk39uawViQFhV/gdiP9iMZZev4Jdds09ae Ew0CTbzyyqW7H0Y26BY4UDJYjVyJ8POFoCjDcD5hvYAmASpUG4iXVeOnMI5KY+HLhDSf2l 23rGUVHVn9fCrBG6BaTce0uTUQdOTxPkkS9A9hHHpWYUDvsCXkmMtYkUjC+NTKcTLbNDdL XmhSH4Qd8h5wdrO8OT3g9boaEtyet7AaqOuB5Ev58YVXGhRzoWb/R+L7e0eJyULnxqJ/+s ivGnAMQCIQ5/xnd+YrsnZsEACiKrNqc+Fjltbjdw1+RDFfRI19BnTfyB5xazAg== Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2025 22:53:25 +0100 From: Michael Niedermayer To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Message-ID: <20250201215325.GT4991@pb2> References: <20250129203321.GB4991@pb2> <20250130004313.GB17613@haasn.xyz> <9dacff42-0536-4736-922b-0d791d63ef61@gmail.com> <20250201004948.GH4991@pb2> <64fdd98f-23ed-45ca-943e-011f223d20f9@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <64fdd98f-23ed-45ca-943e-011f223d20f9@gmail.com> X-GND-State: clean X-GND-Score: -85 X-GND-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeefvddrtddtgdduvdekiecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfitefpfffkpdcuggftfghnshhusghstghrihgsvgenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedtudenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmnegfrhhlucfvnfffucdludehmdenucfjughrpeffhffvuffkfhggtggujgesghdtreertddtvdenucfhrhhomhepofhitghhrggvlhcupfhivgguvghrmhgrhigvrhcuoehmihgthhgrvghlsehnihgvuggvrhhmrgihvghrrdgttgeqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepffeltdefveefffehueeuhfdtjeeileeufedtiedtgfehteegffeffeetkefftdfhnecuffhomhgrihhnpehffhhmphgvghdrohhrghenucfkphepgedurdeiiedrieejrdduudefnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehinhgvthepgedurdeiiedrieejrdduudefpdhhvghloheplhhotggrlhhhohhsthdpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehmihgthhgrvghlsehnihgvuggvrhhmrgihvghrrdgttgdpnhgspghrtghpthhtohepuddprhgtphhtthhopehffhhmphgvghdquggvvhgvlhesfhhfmhhpvghgrdhorhhg X-GND-Sasl: michael@niedermayer.cc Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Democratization work in progress draft v2 X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6802719938694373221==" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --===============6802719938694373221== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="k8jgIfz8mZjlha6s" Content-Disposition: inline --k8jgIfz8mZjlha6s Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi James On Sat, Feb 01, 2025 at 10:30:21AM -0300, James Almer wrote: > On 1/31/2025 9:49 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > Hi James > >=20 > > On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 12:44:50PM -0300, James Almer wrote: > > > On 1/31/2025 11:58 AM, Nicolas George wrote: > > > > Niklas Haas (12025-01-30): > > [...] > > > > On the other hand, I believe this whole plan is a bad idea. > > > Yes, it is a bad idea. We have had the current system in place for ab= out > > > five years now, and besides one or two CC assemblages being inefficie= nt, it > >=20 > > Do you remember this suggested addition to the FAQ ? > > https://lists.ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2025-January/338186.html > >=20 > > It seems you dont remember it even though this was posted just a few da= ys ago > > I knew this is needed to be put in the FAQ ;( >=20 > I saw it, and i think that patch is anything but objective and completely > unacceptable. You're stating your opinion and discrediting a system in an > official document in the project's repository itself of all places. Do you > not see how absurd that is? The system is absurd, the text points this out in a mocking/ironic way. If you want me to reword this in a dry formal way, i can submit such a patc= h? If not, how do you suggest we move forward here ? We can replace the GA by a system that is not vulnerable We can treat the GA more as guidance and not a final authority We can publish the issue and warn our users and leave it vulnerable We can try to block every choice, and treat this like any "publish after 90= day" security issue (ffmpeg community refuses to fix or publish) will reply to the 2nd part seperately thx [...] --=20 Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong. -- Voltaire --k8jgIfz8mZjlha6s Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABEKAB0WIQSf8hKLFH72cwut8TNhHseHBAsPqwUCZ56XzwAKCRBhHseHBAsP q0oyAJ4xt8dleGBIkGVfy+CJn4ZikaNKVQCeOkholGmzl6/cb7FmcPZT8xWsoYw= =ursv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --k8jgIfz8mZjlha6s-- --===============6802719938694373221== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". --===============6802719938694373221==--