From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C3FDE4BBC0 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2025 15:03:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C9D68C275; Sat, 1 Feb 2025 17:03:10 +0200 (EET) Received: from relay5-d.mail.gandi.net (relay5-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.197]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B170D68BE98 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2025 17:03:03 +0200 (EET) Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1099F44301 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2025 15:03:02 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=niedermayer.cc; s=gm1; t=1738422183; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=MB6kVET9W9fLTGyldjkIiXxEHqw8OMP7FxKE3j8ZfQA=; b=aU52Qc8uf05wjRm/6RpcTQlOD2dvUqMvYgSyNRVZwkASsgSU/hGz+q5ByE6rfJCK34HzlF nTxT6dq0/QD+uEgpmK5nz+tcsVDBPua76SwfN4GNGrgpppaSapHBNAKX0nVwZTIRUtIq/E ns2QvBzfPA/wL6vxhgmKogjKQ0o/FFzsDFAY18feTd1i4K1YieGQGJLXNOZL+LtGzvmDQB tVyQgP6tjE4Es2FF+FwDF+w0Vg5o6CAdoLA5l8ne05AWhl9swuS4rk6Qyrjmkr/Q1XLuIc 820v79cRyMA4gbRtgCAi+HJEeD7elNrmUOECDWdi7E3PWnKw+VTOz/4Iq9uaaQ== Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2025 16:03:02 +0100 From: Michael Niedermayer To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Message-ID: <20250201150302.GR4991@pb2> References: <20250128182122.GX4991@pb2> <20250129161629.GB159671@haasn.xyz> <20250129222137.GB6909@haasn.xyz> <20250201144639.GQ4991@pb2> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-GND-State: clean X-GND-Score: -85 X-GND-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeefvddrtddtgdduvddtgecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfitefpfffkpdcuggftfghnshhusghstghrihgsvgenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedtudenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmnegfrhhlucfvnfffucdludehmdenucfjughrpeffhffvuffkfhggtggujgesghdtreertddtvdenucfhrhhomhepofhitghhrggvlhcupfhivgguvghrmhgrhigvrhcuoehmihgthhgrvghlsehnihgvuggvrhhmrgihvghrrdgttgeqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepieegkedtjeduffejhfetgeejtdegteetgfegtdfhjefgvefhteegkeejtddvhfevnecukfhppeeguddrieeirdeijedruddufeenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepihhnvghtpeeguddrieeirdeijedruddufedphhgvlhhopehlohgtrghlhhhoshhtpdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepmhhitghhrggvlhesnhhivgguvghrmhgrhigvrhdrtggtpdhnsggprhgtphhtthhopedupdhrtghpthhtohepfhhfmhhpvghgqdguvghvvghlsehffhhmphgvghdrohhrgh X-GND-Sasl: michael@niedermayer.cc Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Democratization X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8901497755437073228==" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --===============8901497755437073228== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2VRDTcR5Urx7zJDI" Content-Disposition: inline --2VRDTcR5Urx7zJDI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi On Sat, Feb 01, 2025 at 02:48:51PM +0000, Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel wr= ote: > On Sat, 1 Feb 2025, 14:46 Michael Niedermayer, > wrote: >=20 > > Hi > > > > On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 10:21:37PM +0100, Niklas Haas wrote: > > > On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 21:51:27 +0100 Nicolas George > > wrote: > > > > Niklas Haas (12025-01-29): > > [...] > > > > > > *Some members* of > > > > what you call community have expressed violent opposition to Michae= l. > > > > But *other members* have expressed, support for Michael, yet other > > > > members have agreed to arguments on both side successively, and the > > > > majority have not expressed anything. > > > > > > The CC was elected by a majority of the GA, so for all intents and > > purposes, > > > the CC is the closest representation of the majority opinion as we are > > > likely to ever have. > > > > 1. The GA does not represent the community > > 2. The GA is vulnerable to a simple governance attack > > 3. The CC vote period was extended by the person running the vote while= he > > asked > > specific people to join. > > 4. from the small number of people supporting the GA system origianlly > > several changed their mind (both me and nicolas for example liked the > > GA idea originally IIRC) also paul opposed it publically immedeatly > > when it was announced many years ago > > > > We can easily have something better > > > > The community is thousands of people not just 49 > > > > thx > > >=20 > Hi Michael, >=20 > How are you not subject to a one-person "governance attack"? I hate kim jong un thx [...] --=20 Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB Breaking DRM is a little like attempting to break through a door even though the window is wide open and the only thing in the house is a bunch of things you dont want and which you would get tomorrow for free anyway --2VRDTcR5Urx7zJDI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABEKAB0WIQSf8hKLFH72cwut8TNhHseHBAsPqwUCZ543owAKCRBhHseHBAsP q5b2AKCND68JjZIl6yg7rFIX2jr93IzL+gCeL6d6dtUGLR1B9RIurFSKktWhtjw= =m7vG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2VRDTcR5Urx7zJDI-- --===============8901497755437073228== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". --===============8901497755437073228==--