From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D50554BBA9 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2025 14:46:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4969B68BF24; Sat, 1 Feb 2025 16:46:47 +0200 (EET) Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (relay3-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.195]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7871968BF24 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2025 16:46:40 +0200 (EET) Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D5989204AC for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2025 14:46:39 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=niedermayer.cc; s=gm1; t=1738421200; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=xXoJOHghBxAFs9Ll9twlOGkpJzdpn140EPFapZO2s78=; b=YeMjmVcS9PsDziAcDFlbYqTZvs/BW9iL/iWQl21nw9izNZKxWYJTDOSdlIc6TVN6Y07qQz nyNI0b//wd7tNj4r/y1sgjZ8qW9w1S7Lum80rDWyKxTThVlhDooqy+2NHZJN2/xnXBK6Ex rhIfiuoT5dI5ca2bX+pouKfZ5ULKQozpw/4cqtojJn50Ubs/Uz4iSLrkZxyXeV7OH1o0X7 ST1IsfC/2ROMQmEDyJ14/I2iImuQezln0pjJKgF2UPQ6WTw0/kGDozOLdntojWUQl5dpp4 o++kBlDzOXj0+mhkLBQxIgabzbtzAaMQ37C0tZrmYksbnhGy/yaMT0k4WSi+Kw== Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2025 15:46:39 +0100 From: Michael Niedermayer To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Message-ID: <20250201144639.GQ4991@pb2> References: <2572295.Sgy9Pd6rRy@basile.remlab.net> <20250128182122.GX4991@pb2> <20250129161629.GB159671@haasn.xyz> <20250129222137.GB6909@haasn.xyz> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20250129222137.GB6909@haasn.xyz> X-GND-State: clean X-GND-Score: -85 X-GND-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeefvddrtddtgdduvddttdcutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfitefpfffkpdcuggftfghnshhusghstghrihgsvgenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedtudenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmnegfrhhlucfvnfffucdludehmdenucfjughrpeffhffvuffkfhggtggujgesghdtreertddtvdenucfhrhhomhepofhitghhrggvlhcupfhivgguvghrmhgrhigvrhcuoehmihgthhgrvghlsehnihgvuggvrhhmrgihvghrrdgttgeqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepieegkedtjeduffejhfetgeejtdegteetgfegtdfhjefgvefhteegkeejtddvhfevnecukfhppeeguddrieeirdeijedruddufeenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepihhnvghtpeeguddrieeirdeijedruddufedphhgvlhhopehlohgtrghlhhhoshhtpdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepmhhitghhrggvlhesnhhivgguvghrmhgrhigvrhdrtggtpdhnsggprhgtphhtthhopedupdhrtghpthhtohepfhhfmhhpvghgqdguvghvvghlsehffhhmphgvghdrohhrgh X-GND-Sasl: michael@niedermayer.cc Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Democratization X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1743052983813315051==" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --===============1743052983813315051== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="RRvJJDBCLZagJUhK" Content-Disposition: inline --RRvJJDBCLZagJUhK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 10:21:37PM +0100, Niklas Haas wrote: > On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 21:51:27 +0100 Nicolas George wrote: > > Niklas Haas (12025-01-29): [...] > > *Some members* of > > what you call community have expressed violent opposition to Michael. > > But *other members* have expressed, support for Michael, yet other > > members have agreed to arguments on both side successively, and the > > majority have not expressed anything. >=20 > The CC was elected by a majority of the GA, so for all intents and purpos= es, > the CC is the closest representation of the majority opinion as we are > likely to ever have. 1. The GA does not represent the community 2. The GA is vulnerable to a simple governance attack 3. The CC vote period was extended by the person running the vote while he = asked specific people to join. 4. from the small number of people supporting the GA system origianlly several changed their mind (both me and nicolas for example liked the GA idea originally IIRC) also paul opposed it publically immedeatly when it was announced many years ago We can easily have something better The community is thousands of people not just 49 thx [...] --=20 Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB If a bugfix only changes things apparently unrelated to the bug with no further explanation, that is a good sign that the bugfix is wrong. --RRvJJDBCLZagJUhK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABEKAB0WIQSf8hKLFH72cwut8TNhHseHBAsPqwUCZ54zxQAKCRBhHseHBAsP q+zrAJ9XJWKncG3s8LztXCtYxD/b4zRlqACcDt5kK7xqeLFfiBo16h+0uhxku8A= =nJTy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --RRvJJDBCLZagJUhK-- --===============1743052983813315051== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". --===============1743052983813315051==--