From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8FFFD4CC9E for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2025 20:26:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8262A68B9FF; Sat, 25 Jan 2025 22:26:52 +0200 (EET) Received: from relay6-d.mail.gandi.net (relay6-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.198]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F13E68B97D; Sat, 25 Jan 2025 22:26:46 +0200 (EET) Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3A04CC0006; Sat, 25 Jan 2025 20:26:45 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=niedermayer.cc; s=gm1; t=1737836805; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=NTD8mQrl5fQ6Md2kLVtIp3QKjbepU2PoAbcE1gcAFyg=; b=cDyAifBGcP8VIPauIX07j9JyNmr4fPYxoAviv0yJ6uUWgdG/sw38VyBsv0AePJnBdomlix 5HoU5eX7gu5bb/bz+V/LFaMcbgOnzipfSR1CwL1Y7/P2+J2+9OdpkY9QQyZY+OrkY+Ww7Y +11aTiDmKmJjh5yHVUl5cIJNK7zuVZZAGZrEWqbn6gIArgMboP4jtdZ2ELgaEy/Vn9zch1 E3LaMxB7I0gxfBnGfBBMFAT+DRuSsLaYN8pvekt/flhfRQn+9xvauCO19CCCLC8NXS+Ev6 RWImaCXj5OaLIRTfqgGAhQLpOhTXovGYDutEuBQzDfCNVGJlw3aoqz/0lpv+nQ== Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2025 21:26:44 +0100 From: Michael Niedermayer To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Message-ID: <20250125202644.GK4991@pb2> References: <20250102141731.GR4991@pb2> <20250121003647.GZ4991@pb2> <22569438.EfDdHjke4D@basile.remlab.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <22569438.EfDdHjke4D@basile.remlab.net> X-GND-Sasl: michael@niedermayer.cc Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Democratization X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Cc: cc@ffmpeg.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5402555918290991305==" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --===============5402555918290991305== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="32mmW4rUDkxGftRT" Content-Disposition: inline --32mmW4rUDkxGftRT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi CC please see my complaints inline below On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 09:36:50PM +0200, R=C3=A9mi Denis-Courmont wrote: > Hello, >=20 > Le tiistaina 21. tammikuuta 2025, 2.36.47 UTC+2 Michael Niedermayer a =C3= =A9crit : > > Hi > >=20 > > On Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 10:38:17AM -0600, Marth64 wrote: > > > All this time people send back and forth emails attacking each other = or > > > the > > > project could have spent toward investing in modern DevOps infrastruc= ture > > > or discussing other advancements. > > >=20 > > > It=E2=80=99s energy-draining to both read and write. > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > It makes me wonder do folks actually get enjoyment out of the drama? > >=20 > > not me > >=20 > > but what can i do? >=20 > For example, you actually could: >=20 > - Stop complaining about FFmpeg community members attending conferences a= nd=20 > discussing FFmpeg (e.g. VDD 2024). I have not complained about "FFmpeg community members attending conferences= and discussing FFmpeg". Your statement suggests i did that, which i think is no= t ok > - Stop making inflammatory metaphores about community members (ditto). Can you provide links to your implied accusation ? > - Stop attacking conference organisers and hosts for not accomodating you= =20 > (e.g. Kwangwoon university faculty). I have not attacked "Kwangwoon university faculty", this is a strange way to deflect blame for VDD2024. In a room with several dozend microphones noone recorded the meeting, its not the fault of the room or who provided the room. Also it is not an attack (you can also see that i very intentionally do not name anyone personally). FFmpeg is a free software project. We have a open community and are welcoming to new members, meetings should be open to everyone local and remote and should be recorded so everyone can listen to them even when they are unable at the exact moment the meeting happens > - Stop posting insulting AI-generated pictures about other OSS projects o= n=20 > social media (e.g. VideoLAN, on X). I have not done that. I had posted one joke on my personal twitter that i deleted a few hours lat= er as people seem to have misunderstood it. Its interresting how a joke on my personal twitter that maybe less than 5 p= eople saw before it was deleted is used here. (not to mention it is a copyright violation to spread my art/joke in a way = it was not intended. It was intended to make people smile and have a laugh. A= nd maybe think about issues but not to hurt people) > - Stop making seemingly false claims about colleagues (e.g. Josh and Marv= in), Can you provide links to your implied accusation ? [...] > - Stop making utter lame excuses for the previous point (ditto, and causi= ng=20 > James to figuratively lose it). That sounds like an insult to me > - Stop defending ... not sure i did but really, defending someone is reason i get attacked? > - Stop victimising yourself on the mailing list (e.g. this thread). That sounds like an insult to me > - Stop misconstruing people defending themselves, others or their differe= nt=20 > opinion as "attacks" against you. That sounds like an insult to me > - Stop criticising some of your business and/or business partners on the= =20 > mailing list (i.e. FFlabs). seriously, really, criticising buisness partners is the problem ? > - Stop demeaning the GA members, or the active voters within it, I dont think i have done that I complain about the structure not the people within. [...] > As far as I can tell, most actual attacks against you on this mailing lis= t in > recent times were in response to your own critics or complaints. Looking just at the mail you wrote here. Did i cause you to write it ? thx [...] --=20 Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it. -- Voltaire --32mmW4rUDkxGftRT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABEKAB0WIQSf8hKLFH72cwut8TNhHseHBAsPqwUCZ5VJAAAKCRBhHseHBAsP q/1gAJ4rY280pRR4zt622hpptAcXgIiJHwCdH3kyfyOzFAmd6RlqYN3Y4ILUG0c= =/2XN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --32mmW4rUDkxGftRT-- --===============5402555918290991305== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". --===============5402555918290991305==--