Hi On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 01:04:45PM +0100, Niklas Haas wrote: > On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 14:39:29 -0600 Marth64 wrote: > > Hello, in the context of a GA member, > > > > I think there is general interest in modernizing technical tooling > > specifically regarding ML/patch workflow vs. integrated git solution. > > Both have their merits. I think what we have today is optimized for > > some but cumbersome for many. Like shopping for a drill, it is good to > > step back from time to time and ensure we have the right tools. > > > > I think the problem statement of productivity being impacted from > > outgrowing the current tooling is different from who is hosting it. > > > > These are some options I noticed interest in (in no particular order): > > - Forgejo > > - GitLab > > - Mailing List/Patch Workflow (current solution) > > Since our last discussion at VDD, I have come to prefer Forgejo over GitLab > and would be in favor of hosting an instance on ffmpeg.org. > > What are the current barriers to doing this. Michael, since you said that you > are in favor iff the community agrees with it, should we start a GA vote on > the matter? I would instead of a secret GA vote, maybe wait a few days for discussion to settle down and then just ask people on the ML about (yes vs no) (strong vs weak) and a short paragraph about a switch to Forgejo As well as a 2nd question: namely on the threshold should we switch if we have 51% ? or no strong opposition ? or how to draw the line? Also, should we switch if we loose some developers by doing so? Its possible that will give us a clear consensus already If not, taking another look at the comments from people strongly opposing in context of yes/no votes in general seems worthy. Either way i think if this ends with 45% vs 55% i would feel uneasy I would like to see a clear preferrance of the community, something like 20% vs 80%. I think a simple count of yes/no strong/weak and what threshold people prefer seems enough and it seems like "richer" in information. If this doesnt work out we can just try again in 3 months and if it fails again we can still go for some hard formal vote. And maybe by the time we will have cleared up some of the governance disagreements > > Can Timo set it up and maintain it for us? IIUC timo can do it but he should reply himself i think thx [...] -- Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB Breaking DRM is a little like attempting to break through a door even though the window is wide open and the only thing in the house is a bunch of things you dont want and which you would get tomorrow for free anyway