From: Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Regarding Git Tooling
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2025 16:54:21 +0100
Message-ID: <20250121155421.GH4991@pb2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250121130445.GD9168@haasn.xyz>
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Hi
On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 01:04:45PM +0100, Niklas Haas wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 14:39:29 -0600 Marth64 <marth64@proxyid.net> wrote:
> > Hello, in the context of a GA member,
> >
> > I think there is general interest in modernizing technical tooling
> > specifically regarding ML/patch workflow vs. integrated git solution.
> > Both have their merits. I think what we have today is optimized for
> > some but cumbersome for many. Like shopping for a drill, it is good to
> > step back from time to time and ensure we have the right tools.
> >
> > I think the problem statement of productivity being impacted from
> > outgrowing the current tooling is different from who is hosting it.
> >
> > These are some options I noticed interest in (in no particular order):
> > - Forgejo
> > - GitLab
> > - Mailing List/Patch Workflow (current solution)
>
> Since our last discussion at VDD, I have come to prefer Forgejo over GitLab
> and would be in favor of hosting an instance on ffmpeg.org.
>
> What are the current barriers to doing this. Michael, since you said that you
> are in favor iff the community agrees with it, should we start a GA vote on
> the matter?
I would instead of a secret GA vote, maybe wait a few days for discussion
to settle down and then just ask people on the ML about (yes vs no) (strong vs weak)
and a short paragraph about a switch to Forgejo
As well as a 2nd question:
namely on the threshold
should we switch if we have 51% ? or no strong opposition ? or how to draw
the line?
Also, should we switch if we loose some developers by doing so?
Its possible that will give us a clear consensus already
If not, taking another look at the comments from people strongly
opposing in context of yes/no votes in general seems worthy.
Either way i think if this ends with 45% vs 55% i would feel uneasy
I would like to see a clear preferrance of the community, something like
20% vs 80%.
I think a simple count of yes/no strong/weak and what threshold people prefer
seems enough and it seems like "richer" in information.
If this doesnt work out we can just try again in 3 months and if it fails again
we can still go for some hard formal vote. And maybe by the time we will have
cleared up some of the governance disagreements
>
> Can Timo set it up and maintain it for us?
IIUC timo can do it but he should reply himself i think
thx
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-01-21 15:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-01-20 20:39 Marth64
2025-01-20 21:09 ` Nicolas George
2025-01-20 21:12 ` Marth64
2025-01-20 22:25 ` Nicolas George
2025-01-20 22:44 ` Marth64
2025-01-20 23:28 ` Marth64
2025-01-22 12:39 ` Nicolas George
2025-01-27 20:39 ` Jan Ekström
2025-01-27 20:55 ` Timo Rothenpieler
2025-01-20 22:44 ` compn
2025-01-20 22:14 ` Leo Izen
2025-01-21 1:26 ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-01-21 1:56 ` Soft Works
2025-01-21 2:38 ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-01-21 3:22 ` Soft Works
2025-01-21 3:56 ` Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel
2025-01-21 4:03 ` Soft Works
2025-01-21 4:07 ` Marth64
2025-01-21 7:17 ` Nicolas George
2025-01-21 1:57 ` compn
2025-01-21 2:41 ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-01-21 2:56 ` James Almer
2025-01-21 3:34 ` Soft Works
2025-01-21 11:51 ` Niklas Haas
2025-01-21 17:55 ` Frank Plowman
2025-01-21 18:20 ` Niklas Haas
2025-01-21 12:04 ` Niklas Haas
2025-01-21 15:39 ` Lynne
2025-01-21 15:54 ` Michael Niedermayer [this message]
2025-01-21 16:14 ` Soft Works
2025-01-22 0:38 ` Soft Works
2025-01-22 1:08 ` Marth64
2025-01-22 2:00 ` Soft Works
2025-01-22 6:41 ` martin schitter
2025-01-25 7:54 ` Soft Works
2025-01-25 19:17 ` martin schitter
2025-01-25 22:20 ` Marth64
2025-01-21 16:22 ` James Almer
2025-01-21 17:48 ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-01-21 17:57 ` James Almer
2025-01-21 18:14 ` Niklas Haas
2025-01-25 6:57 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2025-01-21 16:37 ` James Almer
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