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From: Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches
	<ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>, Cosmin Stejerean <cosmin@cosmin.at>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Add Mediacodec audio decoders support
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2024 14:19:38 +0200
Message-ID: <20240717121938.GR4991@pb2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <172120911304.21847.16652588338657358575@lain.khirnov.net>


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On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 11:38:33AM +0200, Anton Khirnov wrote:
> Quoting Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel (2024-07-16 22:14:19)
> > 
> > 
> > > On Jul 16, 2024, at 8:24 PM, Rémi Denis-Courmont <remi@remlab.net> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Le tiistaina 16. heinäkuuta 2024, 18.48.06 EEST Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-
> > > devel a écrit :
> > >> To add another data point, the platform decoders might also be more secure
> > >> due to sandboxing. I believe as of Android Q the software decoders provided
> > >> by MediaCodec have been moved to run within a constrained sandbox.
> > > 
> > > Platform decoders are in all likelihood strictly less secure than software 
> > > decoders. Software decoders will run in a user-space sandboxed within their 
> > > respective application. Platform decoders will run in a more privileged system 
> > > service, with direct access to a kernel driver in EL1, through that to the 
> > > firmware running on the video DSP.
> > > 
> > > More performant and energy-efficient. But also way way less secure.
> > > 
> > > The only viewpoint whence this is more secure, is the content publisher's: 
> > > this model enables DRM with hardware pass-through (but that does not even 
> > > apply if you use FFmpeg as the front end).
> > > 
> > 
> > Platform provided *software* decoders should be more secure than bundled software decoders due to the sandboxing of software decoders in recent versions of Android.
> 

> If that is such an important feature to someone then it is not
> inconceivable to implement some sort of sandboxing inside avcodec.
> 
> I'm not a big fan of the argument "we should provide passthrough to
> proprietary decoders because they are more secure".

+1

thx

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-17 12:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-12 13:42 Matthieu Bouron
2024-06-12 13:42 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/2] avcodec/mediacodecdec_common: ensure input buffer timestamp is positive Matthieu Bouron
2024-06-12 13:42 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 2/2] avcodec: add Mediacodec audio decoders support Matthieu Bouron
2024-07-10  8:47   ` Matthieu Bouron
2024-07-28 15:23   ` Zhao Zhili
2024-06-12 14:00 ` [FFmpeg-devel] Add " Paul B Mahol
2024-07-10 13:54 ` Zhao Zhili
2024-07-10 16:31   ` Matthieu Bouron
2024-07-16 13:20     ` Matthieu Bouron
2024-07-16 14:58       ` Zhao Zhili
     [not found]         ` <2009DBEE-686A-42F6-A5DF-35147272EEF0@cosmin.at>
2024-07-16 15:48           ` Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
2024-07-16 16:04             ` Zhao Zhili
     [not found]               ` <057FD6DF-E71C-49D0-8D11-7A7E4D5FB5CC@cosmin.at>
2024-07-16 16:42                 ` Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
2024-07-16 18:24             ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
     [not found]               ` <205EB89E-F6F9-438D-A9BC-E76E5439C7C7@cosmin.at>
2024-07-16 20:14                 ` Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
2024-07-17  9:38                   ` Anton Khirnov
2024-07-17 12:19                     ` Michael Niedermayer [this message]
2024-07-19 19:59                     ` Martin Storsjö
2024-07-17 15:39             ` Paul B Mahol
     [not found]               ` <4F1B9768-96C8-4708-92ED-AC8E1C9FC46F@cosmin.at>
2024-07-17 17:35                 ` Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
2024-07-23 11:35   ` Martin Storsjö
2024-07-23 11:44     ` Zhao Zhili
2024-07-23 13:43       ` Anton Khirnov

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