From: Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC]] swscale modernization proposal
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2024 23:34:06 +0200
Message-ID: <20240705213406.GE4991@pb2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240705203117.GB297771@haasn.xyz>
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On Fri, Jul 05, 2024 at 08:31:17PM +0200, Niklas Haas wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Jul 2024 15:25:58 +0200 Niklas Haas <ffmpeg@haasn.xyz> wrote:
> > On Tue, 02 Jul 2024 15:27:00 +0200 Niklas Haas <ffmpeg@haasn.xyz> wrote:
> >
> > > 1. Is this a good idea, or too confusing / complex to be worth the gain?
> > > Specifically, I am worried about confusion arising due to differences
> > > in behavior, and implemented options, between all of the above.
> > >
> > > That said, I think there is a big win to be had from unifying all of
> > > the different scaling and/or conversion filters we have in e.g.
> > > libavfilter, as well as making it trivial for users of this API to
> > > try using e.g. GPU scaling instead of CPU scaling.
> >
> > After prototyping this approach a bit (using an internal struct
> > AVScaleBackend), I think I like it. It specifically makes handling
> > unscaled special converters pretty straightforward, for example - the
> > "unscaled" backend can be separate from the generic/scaling backend.
> >
> > We could also trivially plug in something like libyuv, or some other
> > limited-use-case fast path, without the user really noticing.
>
> Small update: I decided to scrap the idea of separate user-visible
> "backends" for now, but preserved the internal API boundary between the
> avscale_* "front-end" and the actual back-end implementation, which
> I have called 'AVScaleGraph' for now.
>
> The idea is that this will grow into a full colorspace <-> colorspace
> "solver", but for now it is just hooked up to sws_createContext().
>
> Attached is my revised working draft of <avscale.h>.
I dont agree to the renaming of swscale, that is heading toward
[...]
> /**
> * The exact interpretation of these quality presets depends on the backend
> * used, but the backend-invariant common settings are derived as follows:
> */
> enum AVScaleQuality {
> AV_SCALE_ULTRAFAST = 1, /* no dither, nearest+nearest */
> AV_SCALE_SUPERFAST = 2, /* no dither, bilinear+nearest */
> AV_SCALE_VERYFAST = 3, /* no dither, bilinear+bilinear */
> AV_SCALE_FASTER = 4, /* bayer dither, bilinear+bilinear */
> AV_SCALE_FAST = 5, /* bayer dither, bicubic+bilinear */
> AV_SCALE_MEDIUM = 6, /* bayer dither, bicubic+bicubic */
> AV_SCALE_SLOW = 7, /* bayer dither, lanczos+bicubic */
> AV_SCALE_SLOWER = 8, /* full dither, lanczos+bicubic */
> AV_SCALE_VERYSLOW = 9, /* full dither, lanczos+lanczos */
> AV_SCALE_PLACEBO = 10, /* full dither, lanczos+lanczos */
I dont think its a good idea to hardcode dither and the "FIR" filter to the quality level in the API
[...]
> /**
> * Like `avscale_frame`, but operates only on the (source) range from `ystart`
> * to `height`.
> *
> * @param ctx The scaling context.
> * @param dst The destination frame. The data buffers may either be already
> * allocated by the caller or left clear, in which case they will
> * be allocated by the scaler. The latter may have performance
> * advantages - e.g. in certain cases some (or all) output planes
> * may be references to input planes, rather than copies.
> * @param src The source frame. If the data buffers are set to NULL, then
> * this function behaves identically to `avscale_frame_setup`.
> * @param slice_start First row of slice, relative to `src`. Must be a
> * multiple of avscale_slice_alignment(src).
> * @param slice_height Number of (source) rows in the slice. Must be a
> * multiple of avscale_slice_alignment(src).
> *
> * @return 0 on success, a negative AVERROR code on failure.
> */
> int avscale_frame_slice(AVScaleContext *ctx, AVFrame *dst,
> const AVFrame *src, int slice_start, int slice_height);
>
> /**
> * Like `avscale_frame`, but without actually scaling. It will instead merely
> * initialize internal state that *would* be required to perform the operation,
> * as well as returning the correct error code for unsupported frame
> * combinations.
> *
> * @param ctx The scaling context.
> * @param dst The destination frame to consider.
> * @param src The source frame to consider.
> * @return 0 on success, a negative AVERROR code on failure.
> */
> int avscale_frame_setup(AVScaleContext *ctx, const AVFrame *dst,
> const AVFrame *src);
somewhat off topic as this is public API but
the swscale filtering code could internally use libavutil/executor.h
having filters and slices interdepend and need to execute them "in order"
and parallel, maybe that API is usefull, not sure, just wanted to mention it
thx
[...]
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-07-05 21:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-06-22 13:13 Niklas Haas
2024-06-22 14:23 ` Andrew Sayers
2024-06-22 15:10 ` Niklas Haas
2024-06-22 19:52 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-06-22 22:24 ` Niklas Haas
2024-06-23 17:27 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-06-22 22:19 ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-06-22 22:39 ` Niklas Haas
2024-06-23 17:46 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-06-23 19:00 ` Paul B Mahol
2024-06-23 17:57 ` James Almer
2024-06-23 18:40 ` Andrew Sayers
2024-06-24 14:33 ` Niklas Haas
2024-06-24 14:44 ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-06-25 15:31 ` Niklas Haas
2024-07-01 21:10 ` Stefano Sabatini
2024-06-29 7:41 ` Zhao Zhili
2024-06-29 10:58 ` Niklas Haas
2024-06-29 11:47 ` Niklas Haas
2024-06-29 12:35 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-06-29 14:05 ` Niklas Haas
2024-06-29 14:11 ` James Almer
2024-06-30 6:25 ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-07-02 13:27 ` Niklas Haas
2024-07-03 13:25 ` Niklas Haas
2024-07-05 18:31 ` Niklas Haas
2024-07-05 21:34 ` Michael Niedermayer [this message]
2024-07-06 0:11 ` Hendrik Leppkes
2024-07-06 12:32 ` Niklas Haas
2024-07-06 16:42 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-07-06 17:29 ` Hendrik Leppkes
2024-07-08 11:58 ` Ronald S. Bultje
2024-07-08 12:33 ` Andrew Sayers
2024-07-08 13:25 ` Ronald S. Bultje
2024-07-06 11:36 ` Andrew Sayers
2024-07-06 12:27 ` Niklas Haas
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