From: Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/2] lavu/bswap: remove some inline assembler
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 18:17:13 +0200
Message-ID: <20240611161713.GO2821752@pb2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4833017d-8fdf-4598-85b0-3fcb43a45ce4@gmail.com>
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On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 01:08:04PM -0300, James Almer wrote:
> On 6/11/2024 12:57 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 12:38:37PM -0300, James Almer wrote:
> > > On 6/11/2024 10:15 AM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Jun 07, 2024 at 09:19:46PM +0300, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
> > > > > C code or compiler built-ins are preferable over inline assembler for
> > > > > byte-swaps as it allows for better optimisations (e.g. instruction
> > > > > scheduling) which would otherwise be impossible.
> > > > >
> > > > > As with f64c2e710fa1a7b59753224e717f57c48462076f for x86 and Arm,
> > > > > this removes the inline assembler on GCC (and Clang) since we now
> > > > > require recent enough compiler versions (this indeed seems to work on
> > > > > AArch64).
> > > > > ---
> > > > > libavutil/aarch64/bswap.h | 56 ---------------------------------------
> > > > > libavutil/avr32/bswap.h | 44 ------------------------------
> > > > > libavutil/bswap.h | 8 +-----
> > > > > libavutil/sh4/bswap.h | 48 ---------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > As you are writing that this preferrable for better optimisations
> > > > Please provide benchmarks (for sh4, avr32)
> > >
> > > This is a ridiculous request, considering nobody has such hardware at all.
> >
> > Then I think its a ridiculous claim that this optimizes the code
> >
> > I mean, at some point there was hardware and these optimisations did improve
> > speed.
> >
> > This patch is not removing the code because its a rare (or dead) platform, it removes
> > it with the claim that this would "allows for better optimisations"
> > Iam sorry but i do not see why asking for the claim in the commit message
> > to be backed up with facts being ridiculous
> > The claim in the commit message may be ridiculous
>
> Compilers have come a long way since 20 years ago when this code was added.
> See https://godbolt.org/z/jPose4rj3, where new GCC generates the same code
> for sh4. And no inline assembly means instruction scheduling will take these
> functions into account.
thanks for checking
please add a note to the commit message that this was checked for sh-4
that resolves my concern about sh-4
thx
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Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-06-07 18:19 Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-06-07 18:19 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 2/2] sh4: remove architecture Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-06-07 21:18 ` Sean McGovern
2024-06-13 16:35 ` Sean McGovern
2024-06-07 21:17 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/2] lavu/bswap: remove some inline assembler Sean McGovern
2024-06-11 13:15 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-06-11 15:28 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-06-11 16:04 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-06-11 16:27 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-06-11 15:38 ` James Almer
2024-06-11 15:50 ` Tomas Härdin
2024-06-11 16:10 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-06-11 16:24 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-06-11 17:20 ` Tomas Härdin
2024-06-11 15:57 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-06-11 15:59 ` Paul B Mahol
2024-06-11 16:08 ` James Almer
2024-06-11 16:17 ` Michael Niedermayer [this message]
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