From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org> Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B6F34A030 for <ffmpegdev@gitmailbox.com>; Fri, 17 May 2024 19:08:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73E2868D159; Fri, 17 May 2024 22:08:41 +0300 (EEST) Received: from relay9-d.mail.gandi.net (relay9-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.199]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C8AA268C95A for <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>; Fri, 17 May 2024 22:08:34 +0300 (EEST) Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EB7A9FF807 for <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>; Fri, 17 May 2024 19:08:33 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=niedermayer.cc; s=gm1; t=1715972914; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=ghtk9bA5XPTH75JwEWJLhNcSfZ1qLgqc6XkbSE9BKZw=; b=hdQV9MhIyDIQcBWc9+SNOGijcIk6f29ZAZiZO7wTof0qkiyxeU7uaeYNh2MU0/6JT4zog1 N9Bt+A7zwQ2kWXxwKKADizdFjYiyltD7T3zCbNOewuw7hCcWdXq5mwI+TieAjtG3tV4jU5 VRHIGazKUxjp13XkjkHNEXz/RTAgywwZoV/vDwDQ5Pz4ZUnb6pbfv1sne+XKLaYfXL5QwN /uAxQaaeWeLK/bAqoS+XnZH0aPGEgfq9RFmGxt6Zko/8dQ+3uJjge9ZIqbCRxFJ087JpL8 25te74FdPdYvmh1GXOtAaJGQW3IaMdVvXGK1ufAIRDuCmIcN6B/anNk7+wrGpQ== Date: Fri, 17 May 2024 21:08:32 +0200 From: Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc> To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> Message-ID: <20240517190832.GS6420@pb2> References: <20240517134958.GQ6420@pb2> <CABLWnS9hdOoJxZOMrs4eBU-_1FTranO0gpcVp=_wr6TQAYHfag@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <CABLWnS9hdOoJxZOMrs4eBU-_1FTranO0gpcVp=_wr6TQAYHfag@mail.gmail.com> X-GND-Sasl: michael@niedermayer.cc Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] STF 2025 X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel.ffmpeg.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/options/ffmpeg-devel>, <mailto:ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel> List-Post: <mailto:ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> List-Help: <mailto:ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel>, <mailto:ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org?subject=subscribe> Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1932952360326084060==" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" <ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org> Archived-At: <https://master.gitmailbox.com/ffmpegdev/20240517190832.GS6420@pb2/> List-Archive: <https://master.gitmailbox.com/ffmpegdev/> List-Post: <mailto:ffmpegdev@gitmailbox.com> --===============1932952360326084060== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9N0TUdT6wY7Jgq+r" Content-Disposition: inline --9N0TUdT6wY7Jgq+r Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 11:08:17AM -0400, Vittorio Giovara wrote: > On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 9:50=E2=80=AFAM Michael Niedermayer <michael@nied= ermayer.cc> > wrote: >=20 > > Hi all > > > > Before this is forgotten again, better start some dicsussion too early > > than too late > > > > I propose that if we have the oppertunity again next year to receive a > > grant > > from STF. That we use it to fund: > > > > * Paul to work on FFmpeg full time. My idea here is that he can work on > > whatever > > he likes in FFmpeg (so its not full time employment for specific work= but > > simply full time employment for him to work on whatever he likes in > > FFmpeg any > > way he likes) Paul is the 2nd largest contributor to FFmpeg (git > > shortlog -s -n) > > >=20 > why? nothing against Paul, but this seems pretty arbitrary, and many peop= le > would like to be paid to do whatever they want > if we start sponsoring people there should be clear statements of work, > goals, and everything in between Sure, my goal is to have the whole team payed eventually to work on FFmpeg. Paul is the most important ATM, he is the biggest contributor who stopped contributing. If it would succeed to fund him. I would suggest to repeat this with more people. The problem with "clear goals" is that paul without any rules or goals did work on exactly what made sense for FFmpeg, I dont think adding any rules will make this better. >=20 > * Fund administrative / maintainance work (one example is the mailman > > upgrade that is needed > > with the next OS upgrade on one of our servers (this is not as trivial > > as one might > > expect). Another example here may be some git related tools if we find > > something that > > theres a broad consensus about. > > > > * Fund maintaince on the bug tracker, try to reproduce bugs, ask users = to > > provide > > reproduceable cases, close bugs still unreproduceable, ... > > ATM we have over 2000 "new" bugs that are not even marked as open > > >=20 > I see no mention of github/gitlab work, despite being highly requested on > the list. > Is it because we assume it'll be done already by next year? :) that was supposed to be part of "git related tools" thx [...] --=20 Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB Observe your enemies, for they first find out your faults. -- Antisthenes --9N0TUdT6wY7Jgq+r Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABEKAB0WIQSf8hKLFH72cwut8TNhHseHBAsPqwUCZkerLQAKCRBhHseHBAsP qwmAAJ9X/ivpJEfHhHsIgf7Ge09Ll3BGLgCgjrqaHGgXYgb91RiWBLGm+3SRPcU= =51Fv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9N0TUdT6wY7Jgq+r-- --===============1932952360326084060== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". --===============1932952360326084060==--