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From: Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] STF 2025
Date: Fri, 17 May 2024 21:08:32 +0200
Message-ID: <20240517190832.GS6420@pb2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABLWnS9hdOoJxZOMrs4eBU-_1FTranO0gpcVp=_wr6TQAYHfag@mail.gmail.com>


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On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 11:08:17AM -0400, Vittorio Giovara wrote:
> On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 9:50 AM Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc>
> wrote:
> 
> > Hi all
> >
> > Before this is forgotten again, better start some dicsussion too early
> > than too late
> >
> > I propose that if we have the oppertunity again next year to receive a
> > grant
> > from STF. That we use it to fund:
> >
> > * Paul to work on FFmpeg full time. My idea here is that he can work on
> > whatever
> >   he likes in FFmpeg (so its not full time employment for specific work but
> >   simply full time employment for him to work on whatever he likes in
> > FFmpeg any
> >   way he likes) Paul is the 2nd largest contributor to FFmpeg (git
> > shortlog -s -n)
> >
> 
> why? nothing against Paul, but this seems pretty arbitrary, and many people
> would like to be paid to do whatever they want
> if we start sponsoring people there should be clear statements of work,
> goals, and everything in between

Sure, my goal is to have the whole team payed eventually to work on FFmpeg.
Paul is the most important ATM, he is the biggest contributor who stopped
contributing.

If it would succeed to fund him. I would suggest to repeat this with more
people.

The problem with "clear goals" is that paul without any rules or goals
did work on exactly what made sense for FFmpeg, I dont think adding any
rules will make this better.


> 
> * Fund administrative / maintainance work (one example is the mailman
> > upgrade that is needed
> >   with the next OS upgrade on one of our servers (this is not as trivial
> > as one might
> >   expect). Another example here may be some git related tools if we find
> > something that
> >   theres a broad consensus about.
> >
> > * Fund maintaince on the bug tracker, try to reproduce bugs, ask users to
> > provide
> >   reproduceable cases, close bugs still unreproduceable, ...
> >   ATM we have over 2000 "new" bugs that are not even marked as open
> >
> 
> I see no mention of github/gitlab work, despite being highly requested on
> the list.
> Is it because we assume it'll be done already by next year? :)

that was supposed to be part of "git related tools"

thx

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Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-17 13:49 Michael Niedermayer
2024-05-17 14:43 ` Ronald S. Bultje
2024-05-19 11:29   ` Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel
2024-05-17 14:47 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-05-19 11:29   ` Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel
2024-05-19 12:08     ` Andrew Sayers
2024-05-20 18:51     ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-05-21 18:43       ` Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel
2024-05-21 19:42         ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-05-21 19:43           ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-05-21 21:34             ` Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel
2024-05-21 21:34           ` Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel
2024-05-22 12:27             ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-05-24  7:11               ` Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel
2024-05-24  7:56                 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-05-24 21:42       ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-05-17 15:08 ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-05-17 19:08   ` Michael Niedermayer [this message]
2024-05-17 15:25 ` Andrew Sayers
2024-05-17 15:26 ` Derek Buitenhuis
2024-05-17 18:50   ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-05-17 19:22     ` Derek Buitenhuis
2024-05-17 19:54     ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-05-24  9:56 ` Andrew Sayers
2024-05-24 10:50   ` Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel
2024-06-01 15:19 ` Tomas Härdin
2024-06-02 18:01   ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-06-02 18:16     ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-06-02 20:14     ` Tomas Härdin
2024-06-03  6:50       ` Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel
2024-06-03  7:55         ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-06-03 11:35           ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
     [not found]           ` <85865A16-B2BD-419C-857B-445ED6354604@cosmin.at>
2024-06-03 16:43             ` Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
2024-06-03 17:36               ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
     [not found]                 ` <EF00C7AD-23E4-4AFB-BEC0-F9139F7B6051@cosmin.at>
2024-06-03 17:48                   ` Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
2024-06-03 18:18                     ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
     [not found]                       ` <8BE7B5F7-E7FD-4F73-9239-91B8D289452A@cosmin.at>
2024-06-03 18:58                         ` Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
2024-06-03 19:26                           ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
     [not found]                             ` <C07B2718-2EDD-42CF-8F2E-BED82E14049A@cosmin.at>
2024-06-03 20:57                               ` Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
2024-06-03 22:58                                 ` Vittorio Giovara
     [not found]                                   ` <C3243629-53D2-4595-A82D-35D298B965EF@cosmin.at>
2024-06-04  1:01                                     ` Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
2024-06-04  6:53                                       ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-06-04  6:54                                         ` Paul B Mahol
2024-06-04  7:08                                           ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-06-04 10:09                                             ` Paul B Mahol
2024-06-04 10:50                                               ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-06-04 12:01                                                 ` Paul B Mahol
2024-06-04 12:52                                                   ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-06-04 17:38                                                     ` Paul B Mahol
2024-06-04 18:17                                                       ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-06-05  7:20                                                         ` Marton Balint
2024-06-05  8:12                                                           ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-06-05  9:18                                                           ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-06-05  9:31                                                             ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-06-05 13:42                                                               ` Paul B Mahol
2024-06-06  0:07                                                               ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-06-06 10:04                                                                 ` Vittorio Giovara
     [not found]                                         ` <546DF7EF-0061-4126-AE81-3CD0EC24ED9A@cosmin.at>
2024-06-04 15:47                                           ` Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
2024-06-04 18:24                                             ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-06-04 21:21                                               ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-06-04 22:23                                                 ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-06-03 15:00         ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-06-03 15:41         ` Tomas Härdin
2024-06-18 14:41         ` Tomas Härdin
2024-06-04 15:04 ` Andrew Sayers

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