From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EFDF49C59 for ; Sat, 4 May 2024 19:09:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E7168D6C8; Sat, 4 May 2024 22:09:27 +0300 (EEST) Received: from relay9-d.mail.gandi.net (relay9-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.199]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 175BD68D4F9 for ; Sat, 4 May 2024 22:09:21 +0300 (EEST) Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 755FEFF802 for ; Sat, 4 May 2024 19:09:20 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=niedermayer.cc; s=gm1; t=1714849760; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=8p8HOjuT3u1LHgsNNrzcpBhytH2iBTrYe22v4GFsu/E=; b=FlRgo76tm/bOw8uZCsMPnLeF+1zh97INMMM6eB46GHlhUmVYk+OyTdPTQWynOQL7XseSca wVnsxqfzkNlt7NapZdPSujR9ZTuSdRYlB9VJJ1tM1232St4+o/8XkfxVGdfDklwWHqjRgy 7H02iVFLIMI+FpMBdP7Vzt/Toog0VR9xOkggTzHL6oOBmVUUl9ASrsHFoIGgPvHr84/AS8 1WMwzY9pH1BTEIBsJ/Jg7HAeND90sNI6AE2HyTz4Jf9V8gqXaQgwOKJEXhxu/kJhMFqM84 qoncEXdYFwfkc/EMPkMFLwTABnSNa5cOyyeq0biHRHzZteGcAP7z/hlYUKxJkQ== Date: Sat, 4 May 2024 21:09:19 +0200 From: Michael Niedermayer To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Message-ID: <20240504190919.GT6420@pb2> References: <602455EF-E401-40CB-865B-C9C71D0F613F@remlab.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-GND-Sasl: michael@niedermayer.cc Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] 5 year plan & Inovation X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2180474161838779109==" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --===============2180474161838779109== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Sj0GR1xYZG3EoX29" Content-Disposition: inline --Sj0GR1xYZG3EoX29 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, May 04, 2024 at 02:04:16PM -0400, Vittorio Giovara wrote: > On Sat, May 4, 2024 at 9:06=E2=80=AFAM Ond=C5=99ej Fiala wrote: >=20 > > On Sat May 4, 2024 at 3:11 AM CEST, flow gg wrote: > > > I have tried git-send-email, but it failed. You can say that I am stu= pid, > > > but I would say that this is because of various reasons such as my ar= ea > > and > > > the network. It is really not what I can solve. > > > Maybe I will spend a lot of energy trying it in the future, but this = is > > > because I have submitted thousands of lines of code. I don't want to = give > > > up. If it is from the beginning, it will cause abandonment. > > > > > > Maybe I am younger here in FFMPEG. I have a lot of good young people > > around > > > me. They all use github/lab by default, and there will be the same > > problem > > > as me, resulting in abandonment. > > I feel it's worth pointing out that SourceHut and mailing list-based > > workflows > > are becoming popular in some young-dev circles. I am in my twenties for > > reference. > > > > With that said, I did not realize how problematic setting up git send-e= mail > > can be with some providers when I wrote what you're replying to. The > > replies > > quite surprised me honestly because when I first set up git send-email,= I > > was using completely average providers and it was all pretty effortless, > > I just adjusted git's config and it worked perfectly. > > > > > I don't really care about the quality between these tools. I think pe= ople > > > are important. I only want to use it, and I can facilitate the real > > > reviewer of Review. > > > > > > I don't know if I can say my personal feelings here, but I will say: > > > > > > I feel despised by this passage, which makes me uncomfortable. If you > > are a > > > reviewer, maybe I have no chance to contribute, but anyway, I have ma= de > > > some contributions. > > > > > > > How can anyone use git, but not git send-email? Any decent email > > provider > > > > has support for external clients over SMTP. And I believe you *can* > > > > > > actually dictate that people don't attach patches -- if you have > > control > > > > over the mailing list software, you can set up a filter that rejects > > such > > > > emails and auto-replies with instructions on how to send them prope= rly. > > > I think I should have the right to contribute > > Likewise. > > > > Regarding the part about rejecting patches as attachments, I was > > specifically > > reacting to R=C3=A9mi claiming that he can't dictate that people don't = use them, > > which technically he can. I never said it's a good idea, though it might > > have > > sounded that way. Sorry about that. > > > > As I said multiple times, I feel like contributing over email is a lot > > about > > having good tooling. For example, the email client I use treats all par= ts > > of > > a multipart message the same, so it has no issues replying to text > > attachments > > instead of the message body. As such, there is no difference between > > attached > > patches and patches in the message body with such a client. > > >=20 > Is it me or has this thread and topic run its course? > We understand your preference is email and it is duly noted, the > overwhelming majority of the community still seem to prefer github/gitlab. > Any further discussion at this point looks off topic, there are better > venues for discussing the technical merits of email vs github/gitlab. Is it me or are the top 3 people who objected to gitlab on vaccation, banned and busy ? Maybe we should wait for them to have an oppertunity to comment. One of them happens to be an experienced gitlab admin thx [...] --=20 Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB Homeopathy is like voting while filling the ballot out with transparent ink. Sometimes the outcome one wanted occurs. 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