From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3103C4A457 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2024 17:43:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC0168D5C7; Tue, 30 Apr 2024 20:43:01 +0300 (EEST) Received: from relay8-d.mail.gandi.net (relay8-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.201]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 965F168D534 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2024 20:42:54 +0300 (EEST) Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ECB261BF205 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2024 17:42:53 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=niedermayer.cc; s=gm1; t=1714498974; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=UA+1hIyNfkCfR1Trdu3aD8EJ3nIyfM9Qr3CEfePjoKc=; b=khcqDWa7K5T++Hae1Ug1ggJf0keYU0o6n/F00pzZf2/RxycLiPGDQW1eG/03D+r2uD5gRY AfJbY+zHO9syTHP5WbNpE3qU3HFTPFctr4SPmPcqEXqHPoj1PJIuACxGDPUG2weaabLSQP uX8f0XwWajGeb8jaiY4MkmOjdT0c/sdKp2xbiSjdUCS75S5rro79JFmuDTkKnAvPYkHGAz F7rWhw3sF0z9qu9qniyynudBNDyajEJ6VbjFmpM9XEpkv5U9boA6tUBAMHWjRY0fm8WC9+ SCbZhuDD8gayjDok/BRaDzE+fD9jrBiodp2yMOAggRI94idRHc15vnjl/YtPFQ== Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2024 19:42:53 +0200 From: Michael Niedermayer To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Message-ID: <20240430174253.GP6420@pb2> References: <20240417135832.GJ6420@pb2> <5b12eaff-f12d-4e61-a886-845d8d00e557@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-GND-Sasl: michael@niedermayer.cc Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] 5 year plan & Inovation X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8572435149067695511==" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --===============8572435149067695511== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="oyXyC0tgzk/hYcko" Content-Disposition: inline --oyXyC0tgzk/hYcko Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 01:32:27PM +0200, Lynne wrote: > Apr 22, 2024, 13:07 by stefasab@gmail.com: >=20 > > On date Sunday 2024-04-21 22:12:56 -0300, James Almer wrote: > > > >> On 4/17/2024 10:58 AM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > >> > > [...] > > > >> A full rewrite of ffserver, using only public API, and with modern str= eaming > >> in mind. It would give a lot of code in lavf some use. > >> > > > > If this is going to happen, my advice is to use "ffstream" to stick to > > the ffVERB convention (with the exeption of ffmpeg, which might still > > be converted to ffconvert with some proper aliasing) and to avoid > > association with the old incompatible tool . > > >=20 > That's basically what txproto is, only that it also does transcoding > and filtering. It can accept incoming streams and output them to > multiple destinations via remux or transcode. It was built as an > ffmpeg.c with a scriptable interface and with dynamic switching. > It doesn't do this out of the box, it's something you have to script, > but that was largely the case that ffserver had. >=20 > What is missing is something that ffserver had, which was that > it was able to express exactly what lavf had in its context on both > the sender and receiver, for which it needed private APIs. > AVTransport can largely fill that niche. hmm how would we (assert(people agreeing)) go from what you describe to a (very easy to use) ffserver "2.0" in something on the ffmpeg.org downl= oad page ? thx [...] --=20 Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems is the day you have stopp= ed=20 leading them. They have either lost confidence that you can help or conclud= ed=20 you do not care. 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