From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B4C9496AA for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 00:42:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C563168D3D5; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 03:42:25 +0300 (EEST) Received: from relay2-d.mail.gandi.net (relay2-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.194]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E30AE68D355 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 03:42:18 +0300 (EEST) Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0DF5240003 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 00:42:17 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=niedermayer.cc; s=gm1; t=1713400938; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=jGBYbtt2GE7qJwp14zdW7WhBZrCMgqiS+XjlYcK2a14=; b=BnucFSEBG8bAqiEa1m38KyKHpoAkNfn1wGISZgTK5PvSf50GT4IC0ZpOlIEeYuC19Bh3V1 J9EciXRRhyQulB9Fka4xZBT8XehmkdWWTb5UCeM8z+4JEO4LnwcUw4egvMgcr7Go2kCM4W +7oadb6mmgyt8AiE412o7SfWjX+HQEFtBwtiZVMbq75b8ED/EaphcCxlvQlMaJmBPTeTJm TN3pV7cGL7FBHzbGGnLcLk9ju2W+WesWjFq1/sXv7UxM6B0mi6iiEJ+fGjpdkA6FHJBxjs l2OkJqAq2Im6tr/X683rmwUV/pe0ZC76u+W2ryto7qakRi29lpc8tR2iywKGaA== Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2024 02:42:16 +0200 From: Michael Niedermayer To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Message-ID: <20240418004216.GP6420@pb2> References: <20240417135832.GJ6420@pb2> <20240417152218.GL6420@pb2> <20240417182220.GN6420@pb2> <428ac245-63dd-40ad-a499-1098768776b9@rothenpieler.org> <20240418002233.GO6420@pb2> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20240418002233.GO6420@pb2> X-GND-Sasl: michael@niedermayer.cc Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] 5 year plan & Inovation X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6939425883037123651==" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --===============6939425883037123651== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="cHclnRXujU3CsY4J" Content-Disposition: inline --cHclnRXujU3CsY4J Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 02:22:33AM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 08:31:42PM +0200, Timo Rothenpieler wrote: > > On 17.04.2024 20:22, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 05:55:04PM +0200, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > >=20 > > > > On Wed, 17 Apr 2024, at 17:22, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > > > > > > * ffchat > > > > > > > (expand into realtime chat / zoom) this would > > > > > > > bring in more users and developers, and we basically have a= lmost > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > Better leave that for others. > > > > > > There's an infinite amount of discord clones already. > > > > >=20 > > > > > iam not following that genre that much ... > > > > > so let me ask > > > > > are there any that > > > > > * preserve privacy (discord is not secure/private) > > > > > * allow audio / video / text chat > > > > > * scalable > > > > > * need no central server > > > >=20 > > > > Matrix? Elements? Mattermost? Rocket.chat? Jitsi? > > >=20 > > > These seem quite complex systems > > >=20 > > > Matrix says "(optional) end-to-end encryption" which for me is a fail > > >=20 > > > https://jitsi.org/security/ > > > nicely explains their security. And i agree that anything running > > > primarely in a browser controlled by google cannot provide security/p= rivacy > > >=20 > > > what i had in mind with ffchat initially was a much simpler system > > > simply something where 2+ people could connect and communicate with > > > video and audio (text being easy to add). > > >=20 > > > The complexity of ffchat would be more between /doc/examples and > > > ffplay. > > > My basic idea was that people would be identified by their public key > > > hash + DNS name. And then just setup a connection in a ffplay like > > > interface. > >=20 > > That sounds a bit like re-inventing Tox. >=20 > indeed, i didnt know tox. So this would leave this just being a code > example or a much more massive project both seem not that usefull or > realistic ATM. the only problem is >=20 >=20 > > Which sadly seems a bit dead. >=20 > yes, tox seems dead actually, it seems not dead, just their ML is dead, their IRC is pointing to tox group one cant join with the current tox clients in ubuntu (or i dont know how) then several git repositories are dead but https://github.com/TokTok/c-toxcore seems alive, it has a release 3 wee= ks ago I dont know how all these relate but things link a bit in circles thx [...] --=20 Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB Nations do behave wisely once they have exhausted all other alternatives.= =20 -- Abba Eban --cHclnRXujU3CsY4J Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABEIAB0WIQSf8hKLFH72cwut8TNhHseHBAsPqwUCZiBsZQAKCRBhHseHBAsP q6dEAJ0bxcz8oRrTXC+2pj6J/Wd2SkS2vgCdGzIhENwVujPVLZ/6hu+PgY+gnlI= =Nfw1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --cHclnRXujU3CsY4J-- --===============6939425883037123651== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". --===============6939425883037123651==--