From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7194B49684 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 00:22:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C54868D3C9; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 03:22:42 +0300 (EEST) Received: from relay7-d.mail.gandi.net (relay7-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.200]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3D83868D0B5 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 03:22:35 +0300 (EEST) Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3CAEF20004 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 00:22:34 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=niedermayer.cc; s=gm1; t=1713399754; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=7c7nIEYjIAd5kmTRc794r8uH3hyWPlpYQgExEGEuqaY=; b=hHKon2cbw/0pzVWPNhe0bwQ40WUx0fXe347vaNXCvRbD/Cl8SAOj39hmqz97+ug3PzdGP8 G6Ad/29stSINiqqF3zpqnYG79oBvpVLyHkk0aY7NK9Uona9RP12/nj7PKSfeJBh9Xirh/Z LSxlfWT3HBQgTfW3J61ctoGtlzLxalaaa7OYekpJBtmb0GXe5UN9FhUWZUEd4RJdtysC8Z VUTB6R7PFgrdVy6m3Cd8mcObFZZ2k1BYbszKzgs9v/E0Op/A2CVxf3bb9wa2Nvrz2R5zkP YqHRwPB+D8pzND6EOtlkjxxsQx13uqBsbS4qQb4vK+uYq2C+/JReeQTXrWSCNw== Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2024 02:22:33 +0200 From: Michael Niedermayer To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Message-ID: <20240418002233.GO6420@pb2> References: <20240417135832.GJ6420@pb2> <20240417152218.GL6420@pb2> <20240417182220.GN6420@pb2> <428ac245-63dd-40ad-a499-1098768776b9@rothenpieler.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <428ac245-63dd-40ad-a499-1098768776b9@rothenpieler.org> X-GND-Sasl: michael@niedermayer.cc Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] 5 year plan & Inovation X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0673538565500256105==" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --===============0673538565500256105== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="39hZj4h/xkXH2DZA" Content-Disposition: inline --39hZj4h/xkXH2DZA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 08:31:42PM +0200, Timo Rothenpieler wrote: > On 17.04.2024 20:22, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 05:55:04PM +0200, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: > > > Hello, > > >=20 > > > On Wed, 17 Apr 2024, at 17:22, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > > > > > * ffchat > > > > > > (expand into realtime chat / zoom) this would > > > > > > bring in more users and developers, and we basically have alm= ost > > > > > >=20 > > > > >=20 > > > > > Better leave that for others. > > > > > There's an infinite amount of discord clones already. > > > >=20 > > > > iam not following that genre that much ... > > > > so let me ask > > > > are there any that > > > > * preserve privacy (discord is not secure/private) > > > > * allow audio / video / text chat > > > > * scalable > > > > * need no central server > > >=20 > > > Matrix? Elements? Mattermost? Rocket.chat? Jitsi? > >=20 > > These seem quite complex systems > >=20 > > Matrix says "(optional) end-to-end encryption" which for me is a fail > >=20 > > https://jitsi.org/security/ > > nicely explains their security. And i agree that anything running > > primarely in a browser controlled by google cannot provide security/pri= vacy > >=20 > > what i had in mind with ffchat initially was a much simpler system > > simply something where 2+ people could connect and communicate with > > video and audio (text being easy to add). > >=20 > > The complexity of ffchat would be more between /doc/examples and > > ffplay. > > My basic idea was that people would be identified by their public key > > hash + DNS name. And then just setup a connection in a ffplay like > > interface. >=20 > That sounds a bit like re-inventing Tox. indeed, i didnt know tox. So this would leave this just being a code example or a much more massive project both seem not that usefull or realistic ATM. the only problem is > Which sadly seems a bit dead. yes, tox seems dead thx [...] --=20 Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB "You are 36 times more likely to die in a bathtub than at the hands of a terrorist. Also, you are 2.5 times more likely to become a president and 2 times more likely to become an astronaut, than to die in a terrorist attack." -- Thoughty2 --39hZj4h/xkXH2DZA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABEIAB0WIQSf8hKLFH72cwut8TNhHseHBAsPqwUCZiBnwQAKCRBhHseHBAsP q+MeAJwM683exOQ+LE9NvujNQ1dR71cbEQCfSf2L/QENy1U4REFbCrB3m+5zD6o= =IoKE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --39hZj4h/xkXH2DZA-- --===============0673538565500256105== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". --===============0673538565500256105==--