From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B4D4A02D for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2024 18:22:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BE5D68D355; Wed, 17 Apr 2024 21:22:29 +0300 (EEST) Received: from relay5-d.mail.gandi.net (relay5-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.197]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 04A2B68CFC8 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2024 21:22:21 +0300 (EEST) Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5A9251C0002 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2024 18:22:21 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=niedermayer.cc; s=gm1; t=1713378141; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=Ujay/dUIBQxlG8MLazXVy8rmSFEwsk9BSNr1C+nnY4M=; b=batijUfDM3+RBQTy1b9xDcZRaz0KCkqHdG0usftsCd9UsoUej7lnqrRNFwc8k5Y/S4c7BJ M2RA8R07kz7mPrNkncP/nv+oar15YYxe3q/SnGEjTen+fLd10a02/wNC147fBAoMHb/T2l 0YWvlreDtABbhp/k5gmQJbV3UGYGi6LQVoy9GqYS/vtiH6eMtx2vx6uhA1z/2YHdVCIXu9 LzYgPkxdZ9yCQHtZn5AqS8r455QFWDBLNEupn2aV4rJnNdIHkedw0MNBZTTFjFQfyLi9vy DI0ygfI3n3jaeyHq5umgmrxtsG06llrNhAYe3FPlwTo26gYPaHCPiBfGH9DBCQ== Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2024 20:22:20 +0200 From: Michael Niedermayer To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Message-ID: <20240417182220.GN6420@pb2> References: <20240417135832.GJ6420@pb2> <20240417152218.GL6420@pb2> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-GND-Sasl: michael@niedermayer.cc Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] 5 year plan & Inovation X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1973983276260684701==" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --===============1973983276260684701== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FZqDsbaawHt7A8u8" Content-Disposition: inline --FZqDsbaawHt7A8u8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 05:55:04PM +0200, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: > Hello, >=20 > On Wed, 17 Apr 2024, at 17:22, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > >> > * ffchat > >> > (expand into realtime chat / zoom) this would > >> > bring in more users and developers, and we basically have almost > >> > > >>=20 > >> Better leave that for others. > >> There's an infinite amount of discord clones already. > > > > iam not following that genre that much ... > > so let me ask > > are there any that > > * preserve privacy (discord is not secure/private) > > * allow audio / video / text chat > > * scalable > > * need no central server >=20 > Matrix? Elements? Mattermost? Rocket.chat? Jitsi? These seem quite complex systems Matrix says "(optional) end-to-end encryption" which for me is a fail https://jitsi.org/security/ nicely explains their security. And i agree that anything running primarely in a browser controlled by google cannot provide security/privacy what i had in mind with ffchat initially was a much simpler system simply something where 2+ people could connect and communicate with video and audio (text being easy to add). The complexity of ffchat would be more between /doc/examples and ffplay. My basic idea was that people would be identified by their public key hash + DNS name. And then just setup a connection in a ffplay like interface. Its a good example on how to use our libs in a realtime chat app and it allows us to grow it if we want at any time thx [...] --=20 Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB Freedom in capitalist society always remains about the same as it was in ancient Greek republics: Freedom for slave owners. -- Vladimir Lenin --FZqDsbaawHt7A8u8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABEIAB0WIQSf8hKLFH72cwut8TNhHseHBAsPqwUCZiATWAAKCRBhHseHBAsP q8hOAKCQlvwzfIWtfdDEEWny2isPMT7q1gCdFFGlN+Ie8WCWBlb+e/FED/FERjE= =Kp41 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FZqDsbaawHt7A8u8-- --===============1973983276260684701== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". --===============1973983276260684701==--