On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 05:55:04PM +0200, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: > Hello, > > On Wed, 17 Apr 2024, at 17:22, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > >> > * ffchat > >> > (expand into realtime chat / zoom) this would > >> > bring in more users and developers, and we basically have almost > >> > > >> > >> Better leave that for others. > >> There's an infinite amount of discord clones already. > > > > iam not following that genre that much ... > > so let me ask > > are there any that > > * preserve privacy (discord is not secure/private) > > * allow audio / video / text chat > > * scalable > > * need no central server > > Matrix? Elements? Mattermost? Rocket.chat? Jitsi? These seem quite complex systems Matrix says "(optional) end-to-end encryption" which for me is a fail https://jitsi.org/security/ nicely explains their security. And i agree that anything running primarely in a browser controlled by google cannot provide security/privacy what i had in mind with ffchat initially was a much simpler system simply something where 2+ people could connect and communicate with video and audio (text being easy to add). The complexity of ffchat would be more between /doc/examples and ffplay. My basic idea was that people would be identified by their public key hash + DNS name. And then just setup a connection in a ffplay like interface. Its a good example on how to use our libs in a realtime chat app and it allows us to grow it if we want at any time thx [...] -- Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB Freedom in capitalist society always remains about the same as it was in ancient Greek republics: Freedom for slave owners. -- Vladimir Lenin