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From: Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] 5 year plan & Inovation
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2024 20:22:20 +0200
Message-ID: <20240417182220.GN6420@pb2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f9873efe-eee7-4456-b6f4-8a1b4c3d3a71@betaapp.fastmail.com>


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On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 05:55:04PM +0200, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On Wed, 17 Apr 2024, at 17:22, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> >> > * ffchat
> >> >  (expand into realtime chat / zoom) this would
> >> >  bring in more users and developers, and we basically have almost
> >> >
> >> 
> >> Better leave that for others.
> >> There's an infinite amount of discord clones already.
> >
> > iam not following that genre that much ...
> > so let me ask
> > are there any that
> > * preserve privacy (discord is not secure/private)
> > * allow audio / video / text chat
> > * scalable
> > * need no central server
> 
> Matrix? Elements? Mattermost? Rocket.chat? Jitsi?

These seem quite complex systems

Matrix says "(optional) end-to-end encryption" which for me is a fail

https://jitsi.org/security/
nicely explains their security. And i agree that anything running
primarely in a browser controlled by google cannot provide security/privacy

what i had in mind with ffchat initially was a much simpler system
simply something where 2+ people could connect and communicate with
video and audio (text being easy to add).

The complexity of ffchat would be more between /doc/examples and
ffplay.
My basic idea was that people would be identified by their public key
hash + DNS name. And then just setup a connection in a ffplay like
interface.
Its a good example on how to use our libs in a realtime chat app
and it allows us to grow it if we want at any time

thx

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Thread overview: 138+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-17 13:58 Michael Niedermayer
2024-04-17 14:22 ` Lynne
2024-04-17 14:34   ` James Almer
2024-04-17 14:50     ` Lynne
2024-04-17 15:24       ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-04-17 15:22   ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-04-17 15:55     ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2024-04-17 18:22       ` Michael Niedermayer [this message]
2024-04-17 18:31         ` Timo Rothenpieler
2024-04-18  0:22           ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-04-18  0:42             ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-04-17 15:57     ` Frank Plowman
2024-04-17 16:24 ` Andrew Sayers
2024-04-18  7:52   ` Stefano Sabatini
2024-04-18  9:13     ` epirat07
2024-04-18 10:22       ` Andrew Sayers
2024-04-18 19:50         ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-04-18 19:56           ` James Almer
2024-04-18 22:01           ` Andrew Sayers
2024-04-20 21:26             ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-04-18  2:21 ` Aidan
2024-04-18  6:33   ` Paul B Mahol
2024-04-18  8:19   ` Stefano Sabatini
2024-04-18 10:10     ` Aidan
2024-04-18 20:15     ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-04-18 21:15       ` epirat07
2024-04-18 22:45         ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-04-21 14:36           ` Ondřej Fiala
2024-04-18  8:46 ` Stefano Sabatini
2024-04-18  9:21   ` epirat07
2024-04-18  9:32     ` Roman Arzumanyan
2024-04-23  0:20   ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-04-23  7:47     ` Andrew Sayers
2024-04-23  8:02       ` Lynne
2024-04-23  9:38         ` Andrew Sayers
2024-04-18 14:02 ` Niklas Haas
2024-04-18 20:53   ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-04-18 21:13     ` James Almer
2024-04-18 23:19       ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-04-19  6:02         ` Paul B Mahol
2024-04-19 14:50     ` Niklas Haas
2024-04-19 15:25       ` epirat07
2024-04-19 17:35       ` Zhao Zhili
2024-04-19 18:00         ` Diederick C. Niehorster
2024-04-19 18:06           ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-04-19 19:05             ` Paul B Mahol
2024-04-19 19:45               ` James Almer
2024-04-19 19:55                 ` Paul B Mahol
2024-04-19 19:48             ` Ronald S. Bultje
2024-04-19 21:57               ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-04-19 22:28                 ` Paul B Mahol
2024-04-19 22:31                   ` James Almer
2024-04-20  0:33                     ` Paul B Mahol
2024-04-19 23:23                 ` Ronald S. Bultje
2024-04-20 23:05           ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-04-25  8:03             ` Andrew Sayers
2024-04-29  6:03       ` Davy Durham
2024-04-29 16:37         ` Ondřej Fiala
2024-04-29 16:44           ` Ondřej Fiala
2024-04-29 19:04           ` Davy Durham
2024-04-29 19:25             ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-04-30 19:05             ` Ondřej Fiala
2024-04-30 23:01               ` Andrew Sayers
2024-05-02 13:47                 ` Ondřej Fiala
2024-05-02 14:20                   ` Kieran Kunhya
2024-05-02 14:34                     ` Ondřej Fiala
2024-05-02 17:44                       ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-05-02 18:38                         ` Ronald S. Bultje
2024-05-03  5:53                           ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-05-03 11:28                             ` Ronald S. Bultje
2024-05-03 11:33                               ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-05-03 13:54                                 ` Ronald S. Bultje
2024-05-03 14:33                                   ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
     [not found]                                   ` <3B289095-ED54-4590-B8C0-FF204218876E@cosmin.at>
2024-05-03 15:45                                     ` Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
2024-05-04 19:28                                       ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-05-04 21:25                                         ` Andrew Sayers
2024-05-04 21:51                                           ` epirat07
2024-05-05  0:59                                             ` Zhao Zhili
2024-05-02 19:42                         ` Ondřej Fiala
2024-05-13  6:52                         ` Tomas Härdin
2024-04-30  0:11           ` Hendrik Leppkes
2024-04-30 18:48             ` Ondřej Fiala
2024-04-30 19:06               ` Hendrik Leppkes
2024-04-30 19:15                 ` Ondřej Fiala
2024-05-01  5:27                   ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-05-02 14:25                     ` Ondřej Fiala
2024-05-02 14:38                       ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-05-02 19:32                         ` Ondřej Fiala
2024-05-02 20:06                           ` epirat07
2024-05-03 13:23                             ` Ondřej Fiala
2024-05-03  5:46                           ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-05-03 12:58                             ` Ondřej Fiala
2024-05-03 13:29                               ` Ondřej Fiala
2024-05-03 13:48                               ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-05-03 14:41                               ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-05-03 17:30                                 ` Ondřej Fiala
2024-05-03 17:45                                   ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-05-04 12:48                                     ` Ondřej Fiala
2024-05-02 16:35                       ` Zhao Zhili
     [not found]                         ` <34D9D362-37E5-4BFF-BA5D-01918ED7C171@cosmin.at>
2024-05-02 17:17                           ` Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
2024-05-04  1:11                       ` flow gg
2024-05-04 13:06                         ` Ondřej Fiala
2024-05-04 18:04                           ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-05-04 19:09                             ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-05-04 19:24                               ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-05-04 19:05                         ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-05-12 16:05                           ` Ondřej Fiala
2024-04-21  9:11 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-04-21 20:40   ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-04-23 12:12     ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-04-24 22:00       ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-04-25 15:15         ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-04-27 10:24           ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-04-27 16:39             ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-05-04 20:35               ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-05-05  3:06                 ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-05-05  8:14                 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-05-05  9:18                   ` Paul B Mahol
2024-04-27 19:07             ` Ondřej Fiala
2024-04-22  1:12 ` James Almer
2024-04-22 11:07   ` Stefano Sabatini
2024-04-22 11:32     ` Lynne
2024-04-30 17:42       ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-06-17 18:34         ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-06-17 19:00           ` Nicolas George
2024-06-17 19:29             ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-06-17 23:03               ` Andrew Sayers
2024-06-17 19:25           ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-06-17 21:02           ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-06-18 10:44             ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-06-18 22:38           ` Lynne via ffmpeg-devel
2024-04-24 22:50 ` Tomas Härdin
2024-04-24 23:06   ` Diederick C. Niehorster
2024-04-25  0:07   ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-04-25 10:26     ` Tomas Härdin
2024-04-27 10:53       ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-04-27 18:01         ` Tomas Härdin
2024-04-30 18:14           ` Michael Niedermayer

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