From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70A1D49DCD for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2024 23:17:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2796268D0B7; Thu, 11 Apr 2024 02:17:33 +0300 (EEST) Received: from relay1-d.mail.gandi.net (relay1-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.193]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E186C68CD7D for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2024 02:17:26 +0300 (EEST) Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 47D76240002 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2024 23:17:26 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=niedermayer.cc; s=gm1; t=1712791046; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=XMzhAdRwOnLghQvFv+6Zup1tdKQlEuxOTRz6KQM0AzI=; b=dBIDWLBB3RuMt63q2BRgQdb1Kk7rSeNj3JnaXdJ4XBB24YaxnPjFp0iMLb+A1knEn4HIFn wYO5OqVzXk6EfSzAlBaW9NkV/mU84M9vfkJM3whayJEI+nPnypVrxYYI+wPTjj3GrmsKgL 1VnUzD2j5KVFGiE+u/7dNytObjWU/P5g6jwCyAhp425ScPOA2rNrdR9zKUZkuk4m6/Q95B uFAXWcfjdC4NPiN+ITpI5Ts+0sVKc/f0n/xquafIMmftn/F1lhc+MQ0yD/3yY8n1GcRzrf 5WDYN3zxw1p+0JjVJYQKUnQmZSytCrdTcaW4Woe8r45h+Uc02C0QgciNmONadA== Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2024 01:17:25 +0200 From: Michael Niedermayer To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Message-ID: <20240410231725.GT6420@pb2> References: <20240405174452.35635-1-ffmpeg@haasn.xyz> <20240406202826.GE6420@pb2> <20240409145328.GC59569@haasn.xyz> <20240410131852.GO6420@pb2> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-GND-Sasl: michael@niedermayer.cc Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] avcodec/libx264: bump minimum required version to 160 X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0330155563666916128==" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --===============0330155563666916128== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="aVkcavAXJQV/U7aA" Content-Disposition: inline --aVkcavAXJQV/U7aA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 03:30:23PM +0200, Hendrik Leppkes wrote: > On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 3:19=E2=80=AFPM Michael Niedermayer > wrote: > > > > On Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 02:53:28PM +0200, Niklas Haas wrote: > > > On Sat, 06 Apr 2024 22:28:26 +0200 Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > > > On Fri, Apr 05, 2024 at 07:44:52PM +0200, Niklas Haas wrote: > > > > > From: Niklas Haas > > > > > > > > > > This version is four years old, and present in Debian oldstable, = Ubuntu > > > > > 22.04 and Leap 15.1. > > > > > > > > Ubuntu 20.04 has general support till 2025-05-29 > > > > Ubuntu 18.04 has security support (ESM) till 2028-04 > > > > > > I'll relax it from 160 back down to version 155 then. That covers Ubu= ntu > > > 20.04 and Debian oldoldstable. > > > > 18.04 has 152 > > > > libx264-dev/bionic,now 2:0.152.2854+gite9a5903-2 amd64 [installed] > > > > Ubuntu 18.04 still has security support in ESM and ubuntu pro IIUC till= 2028-04 > > >=20 > Then they can use security updates from old release branches. The > assumption that people will run Git ffmpeg but distribution provided > x264 seems flawed. They can update dependencies that are important for > them. I use distribution provided packages unless i have a reason to do otherwise If i have no such reason every case where thats not wroking is extra work also if i take what you say litterally, then you provide an argument to drop support for every distribution and require every dependency to be from git head. I dont think you intended that and i dont think that would be a good idea. Maybe its just me but i find it desireable to be able to just pull ffmpeg master head, build it and have it work on as many systems as possible. If for some reason a user needs git master of FFmpeg that doesnt mean she needs anything else to be very recent. You suggest people should just use release branches to get security updates truth is, our release branches are sometimes behind git master also we dont support releases. If someone finds a bug we demand reports against git master. thx [...] --=20 Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB Complexity theory is the science of finding the exact solution to an approximation. 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