* [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] web/download: Extend the verification procedure to check for difference between git and release tarball
@ 2024-03-30 14:02 Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-30 14:51 ` James Almer
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Michael Niedermayer @ 2024-03-30 14:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches
Iam not 100% sure this is the best place to put this. But we should somewhere
describe what differences are expected
Signed-off-by: Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc>
---
src/download | 34 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 file changed, 34 insertions(+)
diff --git a/src/download b/src/download
index 0e6fa7e..34733de 100644
--- a/src/download
+++ b/src/download
@@ -284,6 +284,40 @@ gpg: using RSA key FCF986EA15E6E293A5644F10B4322F04D67658D8
gpg: issuer "ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org"
gpg: Good signature from "FFmpeg release signing key <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>" [full]</pre>
</li>
+ <li>
+ Verify that the release tarball matches the git tag: (expected differences are missing .git, .gitignore and .gitattributes and an additional VERSION file)
+ <pre>
+ $ diff -ru ffmpeg-5.1.4 gitdir2
+Only in gitdir2/doc/doxy: .gitignore
+Only in gitdir2/doc/examples: .gitignore
+Only in gitdir2/doc: .gitignore
+Only in gitdir2/ffbuild: .gitignore
+Only in gitdir2: .git
+Only in gitdir2: .gitattributes
+Only in gitdir2: .gitignore
+Only in gitdir2/libavcodec: .gitignore
+Only in gitdir2/libavcodec/tests: .gitignore
+Only in gitdir2/libavdevice: .gitignore
+Only in gitdir2/libavdevice/tests: .gitignore
+Only in gitdir2/libavfilter: .gitignore
+Only in gitdir2/libavfilter/opencl: .gitignore
+Only in gitdir2/libavfilter/tests: .gitignore
+Only in gitdir2/libavformat: .gitignore
+Only in gitdir2/libavformat/tests: .gitignore
+Only in gitdir2/libavutil: .gitignore
+Only in gitdir2/libavutil/tests: .gitignore
+Only in gitdir2/libswresample/tests: .gitignore
+Only in gitdir2/libswscale/tests: .gitignore
+Only in gitdir2/tests/api: .gitignore
+Only in gitdir2/tests/checkasm: .gitignore
+Only in gitdir2/tests: .gitignore
+Only in gitdir2/tools: .gitignore
+Only in ffmpeg-5.1.4: VERSION
+ </pre>
+ </li>
+ <li>
+ Verify that the tag in git is signed
+ </li>
</ol>
</p>
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* Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] web/download: Extend the verification procedure to check for difference between git and release tarball
2024-03-30 14:02 [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] web/download: Extend the verification procedure to check for difference between git and release tarball Michael Niedermayer
@ 2024-03-30 14:51 ` James Almer
2024-03-30 17:30 ` Michael Niedermayer
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From: James Almer @ 2024-03-30 14:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ffmpeg-devel
On 3/30/2024 11:02 AM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> Iam not 100% sure this is the best place to put this. But we should somewhere
> describe what differences are expected
>
> Signed-off-by: Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc>
> ---
> src/download | 34 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> 1 file changed, 34 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/src/download b/src/download
> index 0e6fa7e..34733de 100644
> --- a/src/download
> +++ b/src/download
> @@ -284,6 +284,40 @@ gpg: using RSA key FCF986EA15E6E293A5644F10B4322F04D67658D8
> gpg: issuer "ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org"
> gpg: Good signature from "FFmpeg release signing key <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>" [full]</pre>
> </li>
> + <li>
> + Verify that the release tarball matches the git tag: (expected differences are missing .git, .gitignore and .gitattributes and an additional VERSION file)
> + <pre>
> + $ diff -ru ffmpeg-5.1.4 gitdir2
> +Only in gitdir2/doc/doxy: .gitignore
> +Only in gitdir2/doc/examples: .gitignore
> +Only in gitdir2/doc: .gitignore
> +Only in gitdir2/ffbuild: .gitignore
> +Only in gitdir2: .git
> +Only in gitdir2: .gitattributes
> +Only in gitdir2: .gitignore
> +Only in gitdir2/libavcodec: .gitignore
> +Only in gitdir2/libavcodec/tests: .gitignore
> +Only in gitdir2/libavdevice: .gitignore
> +Only in gitdir2/libavdevice/tests: .gitignore
> +Only in gitdir2/libavfilter: .gitignore
> +Only in gitdir2/libavfilter/opencl: .gitignore
> +Only in gitdir2/libavfilter/tests: .gitignore
> +Only in gitdir2/libavformat: .gitignore
> +Only in gitdir2/libavformat/tests: .gitignore
> +Only in gitdir2/libavutil: .gitignore
> +Only in gitdir2/libavutil/tests: .gitignore
> +Only in gitdir2/libswresample/tests: .gitignore
> +Only in gitdir2/libswscale/tests: .gitignore
> +Only in gitdir2/tests/api: .gitignore
> +Only in gitdir2/tests/checkasm: .gitignore
> +Only in gitdir2/tests: .gitignore
> +Only in gitdir2/tools: .gitignore
> +Only in ffmpeg-5.1.4: VERSION
> + </pre>
> + </li>
> + <li>
> + Verify that the tag in git is signed
The tags are signed with your key made for this purpose,
DD1EC9E8DE085C629B3E1846B18E8928B3948D64, and not with the tarball one
listed above. You should include it here the same way, unless the
signature check for tags is documented elsewhere? If so, a link to that
place.
> + </li>
> </ol>
> </p>
>
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* Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] web/download: Extend the verification procedure to check for difference between git and release tarball
2024-03-30 14:51 ` James Almer
@ 2024-03-30 17:30 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-30 17:31 ` James Almer
2024-03-30 20:30 ` Kieran Kunhya
0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Michael Niedermayer @ 2024-03-30 17:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches
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On Sat, Mar 30, 2024 at 11:51:17AM -0300, James Almer wrote:
> On 3/30/2024 11:02 AM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > Iam not 100% sure this is the best place to put this. But we should somewhere
> > describe what differences are expected
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc>
> > ---
> > src/download | 34 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > 1 file changed, 34 insertions(+)
> >
> > diff --git a/src/download b/src/download
> > index 0e6fa7e..34733de 100644
> > --- a/src/download
> > +++ b/src/download
> > @@ -284,6 +284,40 @@ gpg: using RSA key FCF986EA15E6E293A5644F10B4322F04D67658D8
> > gpg: issuer "ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org"
> > gpg: Good signature from "FFmpeg release signing key <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>" [full]</pre>
> > </li>
> > + <li>
> > + Verify that the release tarball matches the git tag: (expected differences are missing .git, .gitignore and .gitattributes and an additional VERSION file)
> > + <pre>
> > + $ diff -ru ffmpeg-5.1.4 gitdir2
> > +Only in gitdir2/doc/doxy: .gitignore
> > +Only in gitdir2/doc/examples: .gitignore
> > +Only in gitdir2/doc: .gitignore
> > +Only in gitdir2/ffbuild: .gitignore
> > +Only in gitdir2: .git
> > +Only in gitdir2: .gitattributes
> > +Only in gitdir2: .gitignore
> > +Only in gitdir2/libavcodec: .gitignore
> > +Only in gitdir2/libavcodec/tests: .gitignore
> > +Only in gitdir2/libavdevice: .gitignore
> > +Only in gitdir2/libavdevice/tests: .gitignore
> > +Only in gitdir2/libavfilter: .gitignore
> > +Only in gitdir2/libavfilter/opencl: .gitignore
> > +Only in gitdir2/libavfilter/tests: .gitignore
> > +Only in gitdir2/libavformat: .gitignore
> > +Only in gitdir2/libavformat/tests: .gitignore
> > +Only in gitdir2/libavutil: .gitignore
> > +Only in gitdir2/libavutil/tests: .gitignore
> > +Only in gitdir2/libswresample/tests: .gitignore
> > +Only in gitdir2/libswscale/tests: .gitignore
> > +Only in gitdir2/tests/api: .gitignore
> > +Only in gitdir2/tests/checkasm: .gitignore
> > +Only in gitdir2/tests: .gitignore
> > +Only in gitdir2/tools: .gitignore
> > +Only in ffmpeg-5.1.4: VERSION
> > + </pre>
> > + </li>
> > + <li>
> > + Verify that the tag in git is signed
>
> The tags are signed with your key made for this purpose,
> DD1EC9E8DE085C629B3E1846B18E8928B3948D64, and not with the tarball one
> listed above. You should include it here the same way, unless the signature
yes but before doing that, do you think this is the best place to put all this?
thx
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* Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] web/download: Extend the verification procedure to check for difference between git and release tarball
2024-03-30 17:30 ` Michael Niedermayer
@ 2024-03-30 17:31 ` James Almer
2024-03-30 21:19 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-30 20:30 ` Kieran Kunhya
1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: James Almer @ 2024-03-30 17:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ffmpeg-devel
On 3/30/2024 2:30 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 30, 2024 at 11:51:17AM -0300, James Almer wrote:
>> On 3/30/2024 11:02 AM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
>>> Iam not 100% sure this is the best place to put this. But we should somewhere
>>> describe what differences are expected
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc>
>>> ---
>>> src/download | 34 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> 1 file changed, 34 insertions(+)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/src/download b/src/download
>>> index 0e6fa7e..34733de 100644
>>> --- a/src/download
>>> +++ b/src/download
>>> @@ -284,6 +284,40 @@ gpg: using RSA key FCF986EA15E6E293A5644F10B4322F04D67658D8
>>> gpg: issuer "ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org"
>>> gpg: Good signature from "FFmpeg release signing key <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>" [full]</pre>
>>> </li>
>>> + <li>
>>> + Verify that the release tarball matches the git tag: (expected differences are missing .git, .gitignore and .gitattributes and an additional VERSION file)
>>> + <pre>
>>> + $ diff -ru ffmpeg-5.1.4 gitdir2
>>> +Only in gitdir2/doc/doxy: .gitignore
>>> +Only in gitdir2/doc/examples: .gitignore
>>> +Only in gitdir2/doc: .gitignore
>>> +Only in gitdir2/ffbuild: .gitignore
>>> +Only in gitdir2: .git
>>> +Only in gitdir2: .gitattributes
>>> +Only in gitdir2: .gitignore
>>> +Only in gitdir2/libavcodec: .gitignore
>>> +Only in gitdir2/libavcodec/tests: .gitignore
>>> +Only in gitdir2/libavdevice: .gitignore
>>> +Only in gitdir2/libavdevice/tests: .gitignore
>>> +Only in gitdir2/libavfilter: .gitignore
>>> +Only in gitdir2/libavfilter/opencl: .gitignore
>>> +Only in gitdir2/libavfilter/tests: .gitignore
>>> +Only in gitdir2/libavformat: .gitignore
>>> +Only in gitdir2/libavformat/tests: .gitignore
>>> +Only in gitdir2/libavutil: .gitignore
>>> +Only in gitdir2/libavutil/tests: .gitignore
>>> +Only in gitdir2/libswresample/tests: .gitignore
>>> +Only in gitdir2/libswscale/tests: .gitignore
>>> +Only in gitdir2/tests/api: .gitignore
>>> +Only in gitdir2/tests/checkasm: .gitignore
>>> +Only in gitdir2/tests: .gitignore
>>> +Only in gitdir2/tools: .gitignore
>>> +Only in ffmpeg-5.1.4: VERSION
>>> + </pre>
>>> + </li>
>>> + <li>
>>> + Verify that the tag in git is signed
>>
>> The tags are signed with your key made for this purpose,
>> DD1EC9E8DE085C629B3E1846B18E8928B3948D64, and not with the tarball one
>> listed above. You should include it here the same way, unless the signature
>
> yes but before doing that, do you think this is the best place to put all this?
Sure, why would it not? It's the section where we explain how to verify
releases.
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* Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] web/download: Extend the verification procedure to check for difference between git and release tarball
2024-03-30 17:30 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-30 17:31 ` James Almer
@ 2024-03-30 20:30 ` Kieran Kunhya
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From: Kieran Kunhya @ 2024-03-30 20:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches
On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 at 17:30, Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc>
wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 30, 2024 at 11:51:17AM -0300, James Almer wrote:
> > On 3/30/2024 11:02 AM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > > Iam not 100% sure this is the best place to put this. But we should
> somewhere
> > > describe what differences are expected
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc>
> > > ---
> > > src/download | 34 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > 1 file changed, 34 insertions(+)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/src/download b/src/download
> > > index 0e6fa7e..34733de 100644
> > > --- a/src/download
> > > +++ b/src/download
> > > @@ -284,6 +284,40 @@ gpg: using RSA key
> FCF986EA15E6E293A5644F10B4322F04D67658D8
> > > gpg: issuer "ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org"
> > > gpg: Good signature from "FFmpeg release signing key &
> lt;ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>" [full]</pre>
> > > </li>
> > > + <li>
> > > + Verify that the release tarball matches the git tag:
> (expected differences are missing .git, .gitignore and .gitattributes and
> an additional VERSION file)
> > > + <pre>
> > > + $ diff -ru ffmpeg-5.1.4 gitdir2
> > > +Only in gitdir2/doc/doxy: .gitignore
> > > +Only in gitdir2/doc/examples: .gitignore
> > > +Only in gitdir2/doc: .gitignore
> > > +Only in gitdir2/ffbuild: .gitignore
> > > +Only in gitdir2: .git
> > > +Only in gitdir2: .gitattributes
> > > +Only in gitdir2: .gitignore
> > > +Only in gitdir2/libavcodec: .gitignore
> > > +Only in gitdir2/libavcodec/tests: .gitignore
> > > +Only in gitdir2/libavdevice: .gitignore
> > > +Only in gitdir2/libavdevice/tests: .gitignore
> > > +Only in gitdir2/libavfilter: .gitignore
> > > +Only in gitdir2/libavfilter/opencl: .gitignore
> > > +Only in gitdir2/libavfilter/tests: .gitignore
> > > +Only in gitdir2/libavformat: .gitignore
> > > +Only in gitdir2/libavformat/tests: .gitignore
> > > +Only in gitdir2/libavutil: .gitignore
> > > +Only in gitdir2/libavutil/tests: .gitignore
> > > +Only in gitdir2/libswresample/tests: .gitignore
> > > +Only in gitdir2/libswscale/tests: .gitignore
> > > +Only in gitdir2/tests/api: .gitignore
> > > +Only in gitdir2/tests/checkasm: .gitignore
> > > +Only in gitdir2/tests: .gitignore
> > > +Only in gitdir2/tools: .gitignore
> > > +Only in ffmpeg-5.1.4: VERSION
> > > + </pre>
> > > + </li>
> > > + <li>
> > > + Verify that the tag in git is signed
> >
> > The tags are signed with your key made for this purpose,
> > DD1EC9E8DE085C629B3E1846B18E8928B3948D64, and not with the tarball one
> > listed above. You should include it here the same way, unless the
> signature
>
> yes but before doing that, do you think this is the best place to put all
> this?
>
Putting this on a web host run by people we've never met before is a
perfect place to put this information.
Kieran
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* Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] web/download: Extend the verification procedure to check for difference between git and release tarball
2024-03-30 17:31 ` James Almer
@ 2024-03-30 21:19 ` Michael Niedermayer
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From: Michael Niedermayer @ 2024-03-30 21:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches
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On Sat, Mar 30, 2024 at 02:31:54PM -0300, James Almer wrote:
> On 3/30/2024 2:30 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > On Sat, Mar 30, 2024 at 11:51:17AM -0300, James Almer wrote:
> > > On 3/30/2024 11:02 AM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > > > Iam not 100% sure this is the best place to put this. But we should somewhere
> > > > describe what differences are expected
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc>
> > > > ---
> > > > src/download | 34 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > > 1 file changed, 34 insertions(+)
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/src/download b/src/download
> > > > index 0e6fa7e..34733de 100644
> > > > --- a/src/download
> > > > +++ b/src/download
> > > > @@ -284,6 +284,40 @@ gpg: using RSA key FCF986EA15E6E293A5644F10B4322F04D67658D8
> > > > gpg: issuer "ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org"
> > > > gpg: Good signature from "FFmpeg release signing key <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>" [full]</pre>
> > > > </li>
> > > > + <li>
> > > > + Verify that the release tarball matches the git tag: (expected differences are missing .git, .gitignore and .gitattributes and an additional VERSION file)
> > > > + <pre>
> > > > + $ diff -ru ffmpeg-5.1.4 gitdir2
> > > > +Only in gitdir2/doc/doxy: .gitignore
> > > > +Only in gitdir2/doc/examples: .gitignore
> > > > +Only in gitdir2/doc: .gitignore
> > > > +Only in gitdir2/ffbuild: .gitignore
> > > > +Only in gitdir2: .git
> > > > +Only in gitdir2: .gitattributes
> > > > +Only in gitdir2: .gitignore
> > > > +Only in gitdir2/libavcodec: .gitignore
> > > > +Only in gitdir2/libavcodec/tests: .gitignore
> > > > +Only in gitdir2/libavdevice: .gitignore
> > > > +Only in gitdir2/libavdevice/tests: .gitignore
> > > > +Only in gitdir2/libavfilter: .gitignore
> > > > +Only in gitdir2/libavfilter/opencl: .gitignore
> > > > +Only in gitdir2/libavfilter/tests: .gitignore
> > > > +Only in gitdir2/libavformat: .gitignore
> > > > +Only in gitdir2/libavformat/tests: .gitignore
> > > > +Only in gitdir2/libavutil: .gitignore
> > > > +Only in gitdir2/libavutil/tests: .gitignore
> > > > +Only in gitdir2/libswresample/tests: .gitignore
> > > > +Only in gitdir2/libswscale/tests: .gitignore
> > > > +Only in gitdir2/tests/api: .gitignore
> > > > +Only in gitdir2/tests/checkasm: .gitignore
> > > > +Only in gitdir2/tests: .gitignore
> > > > +Only in gitdir2/tools: .gitignore
> > > > +Only in ffmpeg-5.1.4: VERSION
> > > > + </pre>
> > > > + </li>
> > > > + <li>
> > > > + Verify that the tag in git is signed
> > >
> > > The tags are signed with your key made for this purpose,
> > > DD1EC9E8DE085C629B3E1846B18E8928B3948D64, and not with the tarball one
> > > listed above. You should include it here the same way, unless the signature
> >
> > yes but before doing that, do you think this is the best place to put all this?
>
> Sure, why would it not? It's the section where we explain how to verify
> releases.
The verification ends with the tarball signature being verified.
Checking the difference between 2 mirrors, or git vs. tarball is not
verifying if the user obtained a unmodified copy of a release.
It would check for a subset of variants of compromises on the FFmpeg side.
I think we should publish somewhere how the difference between git and
tarball should look. But iam not sure anything is achieved by asking
everyone to download things twice and compare them.
Maybe the security page is a better place ?
thx
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