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From: Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] clarifying the TC conflict of interest rule
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:21:50 +0100
Message-ID: <20240324022150.GG6420@pb2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <171111197597.7287.15050275581822945754@lain.khirnov.net>


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On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 01:52:55PM +0100, Anton Khirnov wrote:
> Michael,

> following up on the previous discussion in this thread - if you,
> personally, would like to vote for a different option than those
> suggested so far, please propose one.

The goal of the vote is to find the option which most people prefer.
Not the option that I personally prefer.
The winning options often are compromises that noone has as their
favorite but the team as a whole prefers.

You also added 3 options yourself, which i presume you dont all
intend to vote for yourself


> I am not going to add a large number of options that nobody actually
> wants to vote for, as it imposes a burden on the voters who have to
> carefully read and compare all the options.

The intend of the vote here is to resolve a disagreement we have.

Simply omiting opposing options is not how Democracy works

You could discuss with others and try to find a smaller set of options
that still represent all cases the team may want.

I think the 2 main cases from the ones proposed by me are:
(that is just my feeling and i cant read peoples minds and there may be
 other preferrances that should be represented)


@@ -82,6 +82,14 @@ The TC has 2 modes of operation: a RFC one and an internal one.

 If the TC thinks it needs the input from the larger community, the TC can call for a RFC. Else, it can decide by itself.

+Each TC member must vote on such decision according to what is, in their view, best for the project.
+
+If a TC member is aware of being in a conflict of interest with regards to the case, they must announce it
+and recuse themselves from the TC discussion and vote.
+
+A conflict of interest is presumed to occur when a TC member has a personal interest
+(e.g. financial) in a specific outcome of the case that differs from what is best for the project.
+
+If the disagreement involves a member of the TC, that member must recuse themselves from the decision.
-If the disagreement involves a member of the TC, that member should recuse themselves from the decision.

 The decision to use a RFC process or an internal discussion is a discretionary decision of the TC.



@@ -82,6 +82,13 @@ The TC has 2 modes of operation: a RFC one and an internal one.

 If the TC thinks it needs the input from the larger community, the TC can call for a RFC. Else, it can decide by itself.

+Each TC member must vote on such decision according to what is, in their view, best for the project.
+
+If a TC member is aware of being in a conflict of interest with regards to the case, they must announce it
+and recuse themselves from the TC discussion and vote.
+
+A conflict of interest is presumed to occur when a TC member has a personal interest
+(e.g. financial) in a specific outcome of the case that differs from what is best for the project.
+
-If the disagreement involves a member of the TC, that member should recuse themselves from the decision.

 The decision to use a RFC process or an internal discussion is a discretionary decision of the TC.


thx

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-03-24  2:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-20  8:22 Anton Khirnov
2024-02-20  8:50 ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-20  9:12   ` Marton Balint
2024-02-20  9:21     ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-20 19:32       ` Marton Balint
2024-02-22 21:34         ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-20 10:01   ` Gyan Doshi
2024-02-20 11:09     ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-22  6:50       ` Gyan Doshi
2024-02-22 21:21         ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-23  7:56           ` Nicolas George
2024-02-23 10:56             ` Gyan Doshi
2024-02-23 14:18               ` Nicolas George
2024-02-23 14:52               ` Zhao Zhili
2024-02-23 16:05                 ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-23 19:36             ` Ronald S. Bultje
2024-02-26 16:33               ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-26 18:12                 ` Ronald S. Bultje
2024-02-26 19:17                   ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-26 19:48                     ` Ronald S. Bultje
2024-02-26 20:02                       ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-26 20:30                       ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-02-26 20:44               ` Nicolas George
2024-02-20 20:50   ` Niklas Haas
2024-02-22 21:14     ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-23 23:27       ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-02-24 11:05         ` Paul B Mahol
2024-02-26 16:52         ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-26 22:47           ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-02-27  7:20             ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-27 16:55               ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-01 16:50                 ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-20 14:01 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-02-20 14:18   ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-02-20 16:10   ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-20 20:41     ` Michael Niedermayer
     [not found]       ` <3C1074B4-096B-4806-BFB0-9D491E148C48@cosmin.at>
2024-02-20 21:12         ` Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
2024-02-20 21:51           ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-02-22 21:54             ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-23 14:25               ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-02-20 16:07 ` Nicolas George
2024-02-20 19:57 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-02-22 21:16   ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-23 14:00 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-02-23 14:15   ` Nicolas George
2024-02-23 16:07   ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-01 17:33 ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-02  5:37   ` Gyan Doshi
2024-03-02 19:01     ` Ronald S. Bultje
     [not found]       ` <3EB2D263-CAB5-4096-A061-D880D4BE95F6@cosmin.at>
2024-03-02 19:08         ` Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
2024-03-03  1:34     ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-03  7:23       ` Gyan Doshi
2024-03-03  2:49   ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-03 21:57     ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-03 23:36       ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-03 23:56         ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-05 18:38           ` Niklas Haas
2024-03-05 19:02           ` Nicolas George
2024-03-04 21:15         ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-05  2:36           ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-05 10:23             ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-04  0:57     ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-04  9:45       ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-03-05  2:50         ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-05 10:27           ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-06 23:25             ` Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel
2024-03-07  3:37               ` Zhao Zhili
2024-03-07 14:01               ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-03-08 13:16                 ` Paul B Mahol
2024-03-05 12:44           ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-03-06  2:06             ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-22 12:52   ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-22 13:01     ` Nicolas George
2024-03-22 13:05     ` Gyan Doshi
2024-03-25  9:41       ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-25 12:10         ` Gyan Doshi
2024-03-25 14:49           ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-24  2:21     ` Michael Niedermayer [this message]
2024-03-24 11:40       ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-24 23:44         ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-25  9:44           ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-26  8:20   ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-26 22:14     ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-29 11:39     ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-29 19:52       ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-04-01 11:16 ` Anton Khirnov
2024-04-01 12:20   ` Gyan Doshi
2024-04-01 13:07     ` Anton Khirnov
2024-04-01 14:59   ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-04-01 15:46     ` Paul B Mahol
2024-04-01 15:41   ` Paul B Mahol

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