From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A70648556 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2024 23:25:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEDD468CCE0; Thu, 7 Mar 2024 01:25:29 +0200 (EET) Received: from relay2-d.mail.gandi.net (relay2-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.194]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CE64168C4B8 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2024 01:25:22 +0200 (EET) Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 71D5140003 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2024 23:25:21 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2024 00:25:20 +0100 To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Message-ID: <20240306232520.GH6420@pb2> References: <170841737762.27417.14992162535824834057@lain.khirnov.net> <170931439255.29002.12138406678517187858@lain.khirnov.net> <20240303024933.GO6420@pb2> <20240304005745.GX6420@pb2> <20240305025001.GA6420@pb2> <170963444260.29002.3284026499566487107@lain.khirnov.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <170963444260.29002.3284026499566487107@lain.khirnov.net> X-GND-Sasl: michael@niedermayer.cc Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] clarifying the TC conflict of interest rule X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Cc: Michael Niedermayer Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7326818539442512064==" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --===============7326818539442512064== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8xcfwzYd+6BjRmxP" Content-Disposition: inline --8xcfwzYd+6BjRmxP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 05, 2024 at 11:27:22AM +0100, Anton Khirnov wrote: > Quoting Michael Niedermayer (2024-03-05 03:50:01) > > The STF opertunity had a deadline. > > Also we can already start discussing what shall be done when the next g= rant > > opertunity comes. >=20 > How about some actual transparency Theres a wiki: https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/SponsoringPrograms/STF/2024 that contains an application only 2 people filled out the application also Pierre collected the SoWs, only 2 people submitted any SoWs I do remember asking you to submit something and IIRC you said that you are waiting for the vote outcome. But you never submitted anything I also tried to contact everyone else, who at the time had something incomp= lete on the wiki and their name. This (and other people also not submitting any SoWs) caused us to fall below teh 150k=A4 minimum so i tried to fill the missing space with added work so we reach the minimum. at night on the 12th/morning 13th february i was CC-ed on the application s= ubmission to STF " a draft corresponding to the community-driven proposals found in [wiki]." Tara from STF then reworked this and asked us various additional informatio= n: (estimated effort (people hours) per milestone, and the fully loaded hourly rate (the price rate, so the cost divided = by total number of hours).) "If you want to invoice after each sub milestone, then you need to bre= ak down the total cost per milestone into each sub milestone (and by extens= ion also the estimated effort)." Others, I and niklas then helped fill the missing things in quickly before = the deadline Someone along the line added more incomplete proposals to the wiki after th= e deadline But same as with others, no SoWs where submitted, and none of the details n= eeded in the application where filled out. > instead of backroom deals, for a > change. iam sorry, but these accusations are not acceptable The application was and is on a public wiki the SoWs where collected by pierre and it was publically announced before. I tried to contact all people before the deadline who had incomplete submis= sions. I think for a change you should say thanks to tara, pierre, SPI, STF and ot= hers doing all the work. Instead of accusations. And you should submit a proposal with SoW and all needed information next time. Similarly others should too. The idea of this was never to have just 2 people submit SoWs >=20 > The application has apparently been submitted, with no public > announcement that it even happened, much less what was in it. whats in it, should simlpy be what was on the wiki application plus the fixes and cleanups mentioned above thx [...] --=20 Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler. -- Albert Einstein --8xcfwzYd+6BjRmxP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABEIAB0WIQSf8hKLFH72cwut8TNhHseHBAsPqwUCZej7XQAKCRBhHseHBAsP q8jMAJ4mIj4spTv5CcovnkDG7xB23ra+QgCfR2dT8uvpYUYzKDmLgGAl0Rp5QqQ= =g72y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8xcfwzYd+6BjRmxP-- --===============7326818539442512064== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". --===============7326818539442512064==--